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    Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by Rynn on Sun May 06, 2012 1:50 am

    So this is a copy paste from Skype.
    [9:40:59 PM] Rynn: I also have a theory involving DM's
    [9:41:18 PM] Rynn: Darkmoons
    [9:41:30 PM] Rynn: I've been level 10 and invaded by a level 62 darkmoon before
    [9:41:46 PM] Rynn: yet Darkmoon's don't invade downwards in level
    [9:42:03 PM] Rynn: otherwise we'd have a -lot- more level 400 or 500 DM's running around, right?
    [9:42:13 PM] Rynn: but here is my sudden theory
    [9:42:19 PM] Rynn: what if every point of sin
    [9:42:29 PM] Rynn: increases the levels downward that a DM could invade you?
    [9:42:33 PM] Rynn: so, like
    [9:42:36 PM] Rynn: a level 50 DM
    [9:42:40 PM] Rynn: can invade levels 40-60
    [9:42:46 PM] Rynn: and if you have 20 sin
    [9:42:54 PM] Rynn: he can invade you if you're level 20 as well?
    [9:43:10 PM] Rynn: it would make a lot of my DM encounters make a lot more sense.

    Seriously though, I've been invaded by a level 74 Darkmoon on my level 18 character before, and I've been invaded by a level 412 Darkmoon on my forest covenant member, who has about 500 sin. I'm interested in what you all think of this.

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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun May 06, 2012 1:55 am

    It's interesting, no doubt, though this is something that I'd hope From Software would alert us about.

    It pretty much makes us look at PvP completely differently.

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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by Rynn on Sun May 06, 2012 2:12 am

    I want to know more about it though. Does sin increase the lower limit that a darkmoon can invade to? Does the darkmoons own sin potentially counterbalance this? How does sin impact the darkmoons? I'm certain there is an explanation to all the very high level DM's that invade me.

    My best example is actually today, in the Kiln, I'm always getting invaded by level 130 DM's, despite being only level 77.
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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun May 06, 2012 2:27 am

    you could do some tests. Get someone at like SL 10, got to a lol pvp area and have them slowly commit sin until you invade them, see what happens.


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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun May 06, 2012 2:39 am

    All I know is I'm constantly getting invaded by darkmoons twice my level. And I do mean constantly; and I do mean twice my level.


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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by Rynn on Sun May 06, 2012 3:12 am

    DoughGuy wrote:you could do some tests. Get someone at like SL 10, got to a lol pvp area and have them slowly commit sin until you invade them, see what happens.
    I've done this in a non-testing environment sort of. I invade in the parish with a level 21 darkwraith. I drop a humanity and an indictment, then kill the host (send a message: Welcome to dark souls)... over time my sin has built to 200. Similarily, over time the average level of Darkmoons invading me has increased. This char has now on occasion been invaded by level 130 darkmoons, I'm seriously getting interested in particularily how it works, but can't figure out a structured test I could perform.

    I am wondering if level 400+ darkmoons would be more plausible with more PvP indictments going on.
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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun May 06, 2012 4:33 am

    yea im pretty sure dm can invade down no matter the level. Honestly its hard to tell by hp cause you really dont get that much after 50vit but i notice TONS of dms who obviously have at least 50 vit 50faith and 40str 45dex and of course 12 casts of wrath. how could you pvp without 12 casts of wrath....
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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun May 06, 2012 4:38 am

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:how could you pvp without 12 casts of wrath....
    lol I know right?!

    A good way of telling what level they were is by how many souls you get when you kill them. winking

    Still, win or lose, it gets tiresome being invaded by people twice your level.


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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by Rynn on Sun May 06, 2012 4:39 am

    Now would anyone like to tell me why I was - repped for this?
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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun May 06, 2012 4:42 am

    ^I don't know... but I evened it out for you! winking

    Edit: pssh, and I'm not the only one! You're at +3 in a matter of minutes because of that -1. silly


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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by Railage on Sun May 06, 2012 4:43 am

    Rynn wrote:Now would anyone like to tell me why I was - repped for this?

    No clue, but you just got +rep spammed for being wrongfully -repped.



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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sun May 06, 2012 5:11 am

    My average invasion as a dm is 3/4s my sl or above. I get the odd invasion below that, mostly in the kiln or against bb glitchers but my 80 invades >40 2% of the time, >60 25% of the time 60-90 73% of the time. The same is true with my other builds but my 80 is the one I kept track with.

    Its an interesting theory, I really hope someone tests it formally.

    We've been really good about not generalising and judging the bad with the good, lets stick to the discussion of the mechanics please. The thing is invading with sl appropriate gear, a sl 120 against a 300 isn't one sided just difficult, where 2 sl 60's when 1 is in maxed gear and one is in +10 or below is ridiculously so. (it can be overcome but still)


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    Re: Darkmoon Invasion levels...

    Post by Rynn on Sun May 06, 2012 10:19 am

    So my highest obscure invasion so far is a level 327 darkmoon today. my char is level 120, it had 226 sin at the time. I'd really love to do some proper testing on this.

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