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    50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Thu May 03, 2012 4:38 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/7orsx97

    Thoughts? Not sure on armor. Or 3rd spell for that matter. Could go DWGR or Dragon Body. Could remove 2 points from attunement and toss those into Str/Dex.

    What would you folks suggest?


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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Rynn on Thu May 03, 2012 4:58 pm

    That spear can't be buffed.

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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Thu May 03, 2012 5:01 pm

    Spear isn't getting buffed, the Washing pole is.
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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Rynn on Thu May 03, 2012 5:04 pm

    Somehow I missed the washing pole.
    http://tinyurl.com/7mpfjrj
    That's my only recomended change, took 2 points out of endurance, and put them into Dex.

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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Thu May 03, 2012 5:15 pm

    Rynn wrote:Somehow I missed the washing pole.
    http://tinyurl.com/7mpfjrj
    That's my only recomended change, took 2 points out of endurance, and put them into Dex.

    If I do that I can just move onto the Iaito. 5 more AR, 3 less weight.

    Could hit 56 poise with havels boots and glove switching to the iaito as well using the DWGR. Seems pretty good Rynn thanks =D How much of a stamina bar is 4 points worth anyways? I imagine anything under half a bar isn't worth the points.

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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Thu May 03, 2012 5:21 pm

    I do have another question though, with the notched whip what would be the better upgrade path to take?

    Normal, Occult/Divine, or possibly one of the Elementals?
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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Rynn on Thu May 03, 2012 5:23 pm

    26 stamina = 1 "notch" on the stamina bar. I thought the washing pole was being used due to range, I'd totally reccomend just moving to the Iaito and getting some of your weight back then...
    And if I was you, which I'm not, with the changes you're now thinking of, I'd do this.
    http://tinyurl.com/77zntms

    Defense not-withstanding, Chaos has the best values for the whip, if your opponent has high fire defense, results may vary though.

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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Thu May 03, 2012 5:32 pm

    Rynn wrote:26 stamina = 1 "notch" on the stamina bar. I thought the washing pole was being used due to range, I'd totally reccomend just moving to the Iaito and getting some of your weight back then...
    And if I was you, which I'm not, with the changes you're now thinking of, I'd do this.
    http://tinyurl.com/77zntms

    Defense not-withstanding, Chaos has the best values for the whip, if your opponent has high fire defense, results may vary though.

    The main thing I dislike with a build like that is the low endurance. I find myself having a lot of trouble with anything under 30 endurance. I could give it a shot, I guess. I just don't know if I'd have enough "Breathing" room.
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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Rynn on Thu May 03, 2012 5:38 pm

    Karn wrote:
    Rynn wrote:26 stamina = 1 "notch" on the stamina bar. I thought the washing pole was being used due to range, I'd totally reccomend just moving to the Iaito and getting some of your weight back then...
    And if I was you, which I'm not, with the changes you're now thinking of, I'd do this.
    http://tinyurl.com/77zntms

    Defense not-withstanding, Chaos has the best values for the whip, if your opponent has high fire defense, results may vary though.

    The main thing I dislike with a build like that is the low endurance. I find myself having a lot of trouble with anything under 30 endurance. I could give it a shot, I guess. I just don't know if I'd have enough "Breathing" room.
    The ring of masturbation brings your Endurance up to where it would normally be at 30, so the build should work out alright, especially if you invest in Green Herbs.

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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Thu May 03, 2012 10:02 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    Karn wrote:
    Rynn wrote:26 stamina = 1 "notch" on the stamina bar. I thought the washing pole was being used due to range, I'd totally reccomend just moving to the Iaito and getting some of your weight back then...
    And if I was you, which I'm not, with the changes you're now thinking of, I'd do this.
    http://tinyurl.com/77zntms

    Defense not-withstanding, Chaos has the best values for the whip, if your opponent has high fire defense, results may vary though.

    The main thing I dislike with a build like that is the low endurance. I find myself having a lot of trouble with anything under 30 endurance. I could give it a shot, I guess. I just don't know if I'd have enough "Breathing" room.
    The ring of masturbation brings your Endurance up to where it would normally be at 30, so the build should work out alright, especially if you invest in Green Herbs.

    http://tinyurl.com/85nbh42

    Is what I'll go for I think, this way I can still wear havels pants + gloves for poise. Figure I can switch between leo and wolf ring when in dragon body. Will use the heater shield until I feel confident I can parry with the whip, they do have same speed parry right? Also will definitely be using the green blossoms The only question is will that be enough of a stamina boost to keep me going?

    Also plan on trying out weapons like the Zwei, Server, and Great Club for buffing purposes.
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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by reim0027 on Thu May 03, 2012 10:22 pm

    20 End seems a bit low. Especially if you want to try the Zwei etc.


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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by dirkdeadeye on Thu May 03, 2012 10:25 pm

    You might not like it, but I made some compromises

    mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=353737116

    That DS spear is heavy. And you're spending a lot in STR to carry it, which doesn't carry over to your dex weapons.

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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Fri May 04, 2012 1:49 am

    dirkdeadeye wrote:You might not like it, but I made some compromises

    mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=353737116

    That DS spear is heavy. And you're spending a lot in STR to carry it, which doesn't carry over to your dex weapons.

    could you repost that?

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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Fri May 04, 2012 5:31 pm

    dirkdeadeye wrote:You might not like it, but I made some compromises

    mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=353737116

    That DS spear is heavy. And you're spending a lot in STR to carry it, which doesn't carry over to your dex weapons.

    Your link takes me to the first build I made, thats why I was wondering if you could repost it.

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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Fri May 04, 2012 5:32 pm

    reim0027 wrote:20 End seems a bit low. Especially if you want to try the Zwei etc.

    Thats my worry, and thats why I was asking about the green blossoms. I might just stick with 28-30 endurance. I will really miss 40 dex though =(

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    Re: 50 faith + DSP + DMB WP build

    Post by Karn on Fri May 04, 2012 8:07 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/7fv7q4c

    This would give more AR to the DSS and only 13 less AR to the Iaito. I'd have more End, 10 less stamina so I should have the exact same number of attacks/Actions as a 28 endurance build.

    Edit* I apologize, my theorycrafting works a lot better when I have opinions and suggestions, it really helps me think out side of the box. =/

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