Is winning everything?

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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by LunarFog on Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:39 pm

    Making sure the other person loses >>> Winning

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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by The Letter X on Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:57 pm

    I'll admit winning is very important to me. I wìll do anythìng to wìn asìde from breaking any rules set beforehand, like in setup duels. It is not everything to me though. As long as I get a good, clean fight I'm having fun and that means more to me.


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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by GrinTwist on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:50 am

    If you are here only to win in Dark Souls PVP your going to have a horrible time, if your here to have fun welcome to Dark Souls.

    I think part of the issue is that when people buy Dark Souls they take winning the game too seriously and then the idea that this game needs to be taken seriously glides over into PVP and then there is the birth of a truly bad player, because even if they win they won't be enjoying the game the way I am.


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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by JumpsU3vs1 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:09 am

    Winning = fun, losing is never fun. So yeah, winning is everything. I play to win, I don't play to try and be fair. I'll use the cheapest methods possible to win.
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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:11 am

    Why are you trying to win? You cannot know how important it is to win if you do not know what motivates you to win.

    JY4answer wrote:I figured some 12 year olds just find winning the most important thing, while they don't see anything in a good, fair fight.
    I do not think it does any good to vilify people this way, or to assume that they should share your values.


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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by JumpsU3vs1 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:21 am

    Winning is everything, not just in a game. The winners succeed and the losers fail. How someone goes about winning doesn't matter. Also winning is required to maintain a healthy ego.
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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by Saturday-Saint on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:29 am

    Somebody's been keeping up on their Sirlin.


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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by CrackSouls on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:41 am

    JumpsU3vs1 wrote:Winning is everything, not just in a game. The winners succeed and the losers fail. How someone goes about winning doesn't matter. Also winning is required to maintain a healthy ego.

    I have other things I use to maintain my ego.

    That said: Dark Sous and most video games FUN is everything. I mean, if I get a BS fishing boring vitality build 3v1 ganker I will try to beat them still because it's a challenge. But if I'm in a duel, especially at Battle of Stoicism, and some one is being lame (example: BS fishing only) I will turn around and show my character's back to the player. I'd rather be done quickly and move on to a fight more fun.
    JumpsU3vs1 wrote:Winning = fun, losing is never fun.
    That's very situational. In FC or dueling in popular areas I often find losing more exhilarating because I've found some one better than me and it becomes a fun challenge. I have gotten my butt whipped by many people on this forum, and if we get to duel frequently I have a blast and get much better at the same time. (Here's looking at you, RantFromRant and Reim)

    I could probably beat most of the ego-obsessed gamer stereotypes by using counter-techniques, but I don't care. I move on. There's better and more fun duels out there.





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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by JumpsU3vs1 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:14 am

    Crack souls I might let you in on my jumper squad one time, and ill show you what its like to win. Its not just fun, its hilarious!
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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by sure-magicians on Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:02 am

    JumpsU3vs1 wrote:Winning is everything, not just in a game. The winners succeed and the losers fail. How someone goes about winning doesn't matter. Also winning is required to maintain a healthy ego.



    Winning?

    Not winning?

    Always winning?


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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by Sentiel on Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:04 am

    sure-magicians wrote:
    JumpsU3vs1 wrote:Winning is everything, not just in a game. The winners succeed and the losers fail. How someone goes about winning doesn't matter. Also winning is required to maintain a healthy ego.



    Winning?

    Not winning?

    Always winning?

    lol!

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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by lalliman on Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:29 am

    Guys, JumpsU3vs1 is a troll, i mean look at his name.
    Just ignore him and he'll crawl back under his bridge.
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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by sure-magicians on Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:37 am

    lalliman wrote:Guys, JumpsU3vs1 is a troll, i mean look at his name.
    Just ignore him and he'll crawl back under his bridge.

    I was gonna post this first, but decided on the pictures instead...


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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by CrackSouls on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:02 am

    No, I take this conversation seriously. As I see it there are more people that agree with JumpsU3vs1 in the gamer community and I want to know why. Just because I cannot relate to it, I can't ignore it.

    Maybe I will join you, Jumps. But if I'm going to gank I could only do it in a hilarious way. A way that the victim could laugh as well.
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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by Glutebrah on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:02 pm

    JumpsU3vs1 wrote:Winning is everything, not just in a game. The winners succeed and the losers fail. How someone goes about winning doesn't matter. Also winning is required to maintain a healthy ego.



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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by Emergence on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:13 pm

    Nuff with the necros please. I'd prefer a restated topic, instead of people quoting and responding to people who haven't been around for a year.


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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by lordgodofhell on Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:35 pm

    Emergence wrote:Nuff with the necros please. I'd prefer a restated topic, instead of people quoting and responding to people who haven't been around for a year.

    ^This

    Perhaps I will start another thread in order to spark healthy relevant conversation again. It has been a while.


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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by mugenis4real on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:20 pm

    Well I prefer to win because for me personally, winning is fun king
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    Re: Is winning everything?

    Post by morte on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:58 am

    For some, winning is everything, this is the nature of the world and those who can't see the value of the journey to their objective. Personally, I like good fights, and while I enjoy winning, I don't think losing makes the fight unfun. I had one fight in the forest, a dude and a sunbro, one was a pyro/str and the other was a dex with an uchigatana. The dex dude stood away and let me fight the pyro first, then got invaded by another forest bro who the dex fought. In the end, it was 2 vs 2, but effectively two fights of 1 vs 1 (although we did switch partners once or twice) my fellow FG got killed and, while the dex and pyro handed my *** to me, it was one of the most enjoyable pvp fights I'd ever had. For me, and probably for a lot of Souls players, it's about the fight instead of the outcome.


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