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    Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Federally on Tue May 01, 2012 1:10 am

    So I got my butt wooped all over Anor Londo today and lost a ton of souls and humanity when I accidentally entered the stupid painted world on my way back to my bloodstain, all so I could get to the Giant Blacksmith and get a Chaos Sword made out of my Uchigatana +10. I got it, eventually, and immediately increased it to +5 then compared it to my Iato +15 and what do you know their identical in attack. The Iato has a lower base but higher scaling so at 35 Dex they both add up to 360. This leads me to the question, Wtf is the point of this Chaos Blade? I mean it looks awesome but the damn thing hurts me every time I land a hit so I figured its attack would be through the roof to compensate but its not. So am I missing something?

    Side note, I felt much better when me and a jolly companion made pretty easy work of O&S.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Tue May 01, 2012 1:13 am

    It can scale with humanity. Maximum damage increase at ten humanity. Also, it has a B in dex scaling, plus good range, plus high base stats. It's a pretty good weapon.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Federally on Tue May 01, 2012 1:17 am

    Iato +15 has an S in Dex scaling, isn't that above B?

    Now the humanity aspect I hadn't considered, maybe I need to experiment with that.

    On the surface the Iato seems superior in all ways but maybe I'm wrong.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by ChizFreak on Tue May 01, 2012 1:18 am

    Federally wrote:Iato +15 has an S in Dex scaling, isn't that above B?

    Now the humanity aspect I hadn't considered, maybe I need to experiment with that.

    On the surface the Iato seems superior in all ways but maybe I'm wrong.

    Iato is faster, does almost the same damage, has a better moveset, doesn't eat your health every time you hit, AND is buffable. Period.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Tue May 01, 2012 1:19 am

    Yeah, S is better than B, but combined with 10 humanity, plus better base damge, I think the Chaos Blade could be better than the Iaito. It needs to be tested though.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Carphil on Tue May 01, 2012 1:20 am

    Iato has S scaling? Sorry but I think its just A! The only S scaling dex weapon is the Black bow of Pharis


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Federally on Tue May 01, 2012 1:23 am

    Imarreteet23 wrote:Yeah, S is better than B, but combined with 10 humanity, plus better base damge, I think the Chaos Blade could be better than the Iaito. It needs to be tested though.

    I will endeavor to find out tomorrow, tho at first glance Chizfreak is correct.

    @Carphill Iato +15 has S Dex scaling dude, its a total badass of a sword and causes epic bleeding. I actually figured the thing out and kicked the crap out of several invaders today (usually I die horribly).


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by ChizFreak on Tue May 01, 2012 1:27 am

    Federally wrote:
    Imarreteet23 wrote:Yeah, S is better than B, but combined with 10 humanity, plus better base damge, I think the Chaos Blade could be better than the Iaito. It needs to be tested though.

    I will endeavor to find out tomorrow, tho at first glance Chizfreak is correct.

    @Carphill Iato +15 has S Dex scaling dude, its a total badass of a sword and causes epic bleeding. I actually figured the thing out and kicked the crap out of several invaders today (usually I die horribly).

    It's very hard to bleed someone in PvP mainly because most people use heavy armor, which has very high bleed resistance. Another reason why Chaos Blade is bad. How long you would last trying to bleed your opponent if you lose life every time you hit him even in his shield?

    Also remember that most of the time you hit an enemy, because of lag you hear the noise hitting him but do no damage to him. It's very common. But when you use Chaos Blade, you lose life too, even at those moments. So you're trading life for nothing.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Federally on Tue May 01, 2012 1:38 am

    Yes you have a valid point, which is why the two heavy armor guys who invaded me today resulted in one lose to me and one dual kill where in a desperate moment i switched to 2 handed on my Iato and just swung like crazy. A double KO pleases me more then an outright loss. On the other hand the 2 medium armor wearers who also jumped me in the Painted World got their asses handed to them! Bleed or no bleed the Iato is a killer.

    Tho I have to test the Chaos Blade and see what kind of dmg it does with 10 humanity.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by ChizFreak on Tue May 01, 2012 1:47 am

    Federally wrote:Yes you have a valid point, which is why the two heavy armor guys who invaded me today resulted in one lose to me and one dual kill where in a desperate moment i switched to 2 handed on my Iato and just swung like crazy. A double KO pleases me more then an outright loss. On the other hand the 2 medium armor wearers who also jumped me in the Painted World got their asses handed to them! Bleed or no bleed the Iato is a killer.

    Tho I have to test the Chaos Blade and see what kind of dmg it does with 10 humanity.

    Iato +15 with 40 Dex does 410 damage.

    Chaos Blade +5 with 40 Dex AND 10 humanity does 451 damage.

    41 damage doesn't compensate the fact you lose life every time you use it. And it's not buffable, and slower than the Iato.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Tue May 01, 2012 1:51 am

    Yeah, so Iaito is better, but c'mon, dosen't Chaos Blade get points for style?




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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by TheAshenPhantom on Tue May 01, 2012 2:08 am

    Imarreteet23 wrote:Yeah, so Iaito is better, but c'mon, dosen't Chaos Blade get points for style?



    It may get points for style but I think survival still earns more. XD
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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Tue May 01, 2012 2:11 am

    Hey, as long as you look cool while you die, nothing else matters. happy


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by TheAshenPhantom on Tue May 01, 2012 2:15 am

    Imarreteet23 wrote:Hey, as long as you look cool while you die, nothing else matters. happy

    I look more like an escapee from an asylum dressed as a clown with a flaming spiked sword.... Ok I'll admit that does sound cool..... XD
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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Glutebrah on Tue May 01, 2012 2:30 am

    at 40 dex and 10 humanity Chaos blade is the strongest unbuffed katana in the game, and has the fastest bleed build up of all the katanas, also has longer reach then iaito an uchi.

    i LOVE the chaos blade.

    you only lose 20HP when you get a successful hit. that means missing/hitting a wall/hitting a shield will not drain your life. Back stabs and parries don't drain your life either.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by ChizFreak on Tue May 01, 2012 2:38 am

    Glutebrah wrote:at 40 dex and 10 humanity Chaos blade is the strongest unbuffed katana in the game, and has the fastest bleed build up of all the katanas, also has longer reach then iaito an uchi.

    i LOVE the chaos blade.

    you only lose 20HP when you get a successful hit. that means missing/hitting a wall/hitting a shield will not drain your life. Back stabs and parries don't drain your life either.

    Yeah but remember the thing I wrote about hits and lag in PvP. And even if you buff an Iato +15 with a resin it will do more damage than the Chaos Blade.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

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    Federally wrote:So I got my butt wooped all over Anor Londo today and lost a ton of souls and humanity when I accidentally entered the stupid painted world on my way back to my bloodstain, all so I could get to the Giant Blacksmith and get a Chaos Sword made out of my Uchigatana +10. I got it, eventually, and immediately increased it to +5 then compared it to my Iato +15 and what do you know their identical in attack. The Iato has a lower base but higher scaling so at 35 Dex they both add up to 360. This leads me to the question, Wtf is the point of this Chaos Blade? I mean it looks awesome but the damn thing hurts me every time I land a hit so I figured its attack would be through the roof to compensate but its not. So am I missing something?

    Side note, I felt much better when me and a jolly companion made pretty easy work of O&S.

    The Chaos Blade has the Best KATANA move set ever! AM I right!


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Quarik on Tue May 01, 2012 4:55 am

    Can someone confirm the Iaito +15 S scaling? Wiki says it's A, and I'm not going to waste a slab.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Dubscythe on Tue May 01, 2012 7:43 am

    To me it seems like most of the boss weapons just end up being subpar choices when compared to +15 Normal/+10 lightning/Fire etc.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Yesuurd on Tue May 01, 2012 8:28 am

    Iato says A scaling +15 on wiki, someone should check that out then.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue May 01, 2012 8:35 am

    Iaito IS an A at +15, whoever says different is incorrect.

    Chaos Blade at 40 Dex and 10 humanity has 450 pure AR, which is incredibly powerful for an unbuffed weapon of that class. 20HP drain is fine for how powerful it is (doesnt hurt you on BS or ripostes either). It also looks badass, it's the complete package (though you need good connection to use it in PvP)


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Yesuurd on Tue May 01, 2012 8:36 am

    Chaos Blade is the most awesome katana in the game after my washing pole of course winking


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue May 01, 2012 8:40 am

    haha, I never bothered with the Washing Pole, I love scaling too much, thats why even if I have an elemental weapon it has to be chaos so it has scaling silly

    Also personally I think the sword looks a little ridiculous.. The Murakamo is a cool weapon, though I never got into using it, perhaps if I returned to Dark Souls I'd give it a try and make a Mage build using it as the primary weapon... hmm


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Yesuurd on Tue May 01, 2012 8:43 am

    Serious Blasphemy!!!! The chaos blade has the coolest moveset and scaling, it is hindered by the hp loss like it or not it all comes down to your tastes but the WP has an advantage over all katanas and that is the range, if you have good STR and DEX then the scaling can easily beat any other katana too.


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    Re: Chaos Sword You Disappoint Me!

    Post by Federally on Tue May 01, 2012 8:52 am

    Quarik wrote:Can someone confirm the Iaito +15 S scaling? Wiki says it's A, and I'm not going to waste a slab.

    Everyone disagrees with me so when I get off work I'll go reconfirm and if I'm indeed right ill take s picture.


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