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Us poor Xbox players

Post by GkMrBane Tue May 01, 2012 9:38 am

Well its confirmed almost all of us are soulless evil honorless brown eye's.

AT SL 120 In the forest I was invaded 56 times in an hour and a half and I made sure to Us poor Xbox players 3149687655

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to each and every one of them. However 26 went straight for the kill. 30 of them Us poor Xbox players 3149687655

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back to me and only 1 didnt try to back stab or double team me.

I won 38 of those invasions (using my grave lord toon ALL HAIL NITO!! Us poor Xbox players 3063782546

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) LOL

On a side note I got killed 10 times by the same dude with a back stabe (every time) with the great axe (one handed) and a raiper dude with DMB 4 times with back stabes. sad

sad

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Re: Us poor Xbox players

Post by Rynn Tue May 01, 2012 10:22 am

GkMrBane wrote:Well its confirmed almost all of us are soulless evil honorless brown eye's.

AT SL 120 In the forest I was invaded 56 times in an hour and a half and I made sure to to each and every one of them. However 26 went straight for the kill. 30 of them back to me and only 1 didnt try to back stab or double team me.

I won 38 of those invasions (using my grave lord toon ALL HAIL NITO!! ) LOL

On a side note I got killed 10 times by the same dude with a back stabe (every time) with the great axe (one handed) and a raiper dude with DMB 4 times with back stabes.

In the forest, most users will circle, most users will stall until a second phantom shows up, and users will happily gank when the opportunity to given. It's misguided stress from all the Gankers they deal with on a dealy basis.

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Post by RANT Tue May 01, 2012 10:31 am

sounds a lot like ps3 forest, like rynn said after gangbanging the hunters get i dont blame them, i made a forest hunter with twop and 3 sets of wog to give them a taste of their own medicine and i get hatemail when i do it lol.

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Post by GkMrBane Tue May 01, 2012 10:55 am

I know I dont hold it against them. sad

sad

still sad though I made sure only to host as well.

On a funny side not I was hollow and got grave lorded so I invaded the guy and asked him to trade me some eyes of death for sif's soul. he droped me a dung pie after I gave him the soul so as pay back I almost killed him 7 times so that he would have to heal and then when I killed him I got an eye of death. LOL

He sent me hate mail to which I responded should have gave me those eyes and then I wouldnt have had to take yours.

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Post by Revoltage Tue May 01, 2012 11:05 am

Yeah I know how it is, hosting solo in the forest. Last night before fc I got invaded maybe around 30 times, more than half were 2v1s and most invaders were bs fishing.....i even got chainstabbed a couple times too.

But I got two invaders who decided a fistfight and darkhand makeout session was more fun than fighting. Lol I think I must have drained their humanity about 20 times but I still had the same amount in the end because of counter-drain. Then I threw dung pies at them, toxiced myself and then died.

It was fun. It's these moments that make all the crap worth the wait so it's good to know that not everyone is just invading for the kill. But I definitely dont blame the forest hunters because they have to put up with so much ganking.

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Post by ARSP Tue May 01, 2012 11:10 am

The forest is the worst place for PVP in game (the kiln a close second). I prefer the Painted world of Ariamis or Anor Londo those are great PVP destinations

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Post by Buggy Virus Tue May 01, 2012 11:12 am

People can go for backstabs if they want. The problem is when they only fish for backstabs. It makes sense to hit opponents with a backstab if they leave themselves completely open, you can't get angry at every person who gets one on you.

And fishing is easy to counter if you understand it too.

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Post by RANT Tue May 01, 2012 12:42 pm

Buggy Virus wrote:People can go for backstabs if they want. The problem is when they only fish for backstabs. It makes sense to hit opponents with a backstab if they leave themselves completely open, you can't get angry at every person who gets one on you.

And fishing is easy to counter if you understand it too.

countering backstabs and fishing is hard when people are laggy as hell but for the most part yes. i love it when people chain bs me and then point down(i know how to counter it but somehoe they can control lag, weird. the same with fishers.) after i just invade again and kick thei *** with my large club.

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Post by Rynn Tue May 01, 2012 12:57 pm

That is why BS's annoy me. Generally they stood no chance without it, and so it's an easy kill that exploited an exploitable feature of the game.

(BS fishers are referred to here.

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Post by SlakeMoth Tue May 01, 2012 1:01 pm

I hope they kill that move in the next Souls game (if there is one). Save us all a lot of grief.

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Post by GkMrBane Tue May 01, 2012 1:08 pm

I so hate great axe's almost much as rapier's

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Post by ARSP Tue May 01, 2012 1:11 pm

In recent days I started hating the Bandit's knife

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Post by Rynn Tue May 01, 2012 5:22 pm

GkMrBane wrote:I so hate great axe's almost much as rapier's

What about if they are using it properly? Do you hate me?

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Post by Yukon Tue May 01, 2012 5:52 pm

SlakeMoth wrote:I hope they kill that move in the next Souls game (if there is one). Save us all a lot of grief.

I really hope they don't Slake, if anything I want them to work on better connections not removal of backstabs, they are avoidable, over powered with the hornet ring, and dwgr, but I don't want to see them go. I much prefer to just join a FC when I don't want to see BS.

If you are invading and get a 3v1 the only thing likely to save your *** is the ability to backstab and seperate the phantoms from the host. Sure, make BS harder to land, make them do less damage, but do not remove them from the game.

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Post by Forum Pirate Tue May 01, 2012 6:29 pm

a couple of things.

Back stabs are almost certainly not going anywhere, its a core game mechanic, the latency is the problem, followed (distantly) by hitbox size.

And hunters have a choice, ganking because you're ganked so often only means you have become what you despise and deserve every ganking you recieve for as long as you gank.

Cite "trauma" or "blowing off steam" all you like, once you gank, you lose all logical basis for your complaints about ganker hosts.

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Post by Rynn Tue May 01, 2012 6:54 pm

I don't believe players should be able to backstab a player whom is currently locked on to them is all.

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Post by Forum Pirate Tue May 01, 2012 7:03 pm

thats latency, in demons you couldn't unless they tried to cast a spell or heal, anything that immobilised you while you did it, of which there were like 3.

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Post by Rynn Tue May 01, 2012 7:05 pm

I mean the function shouldn't be possible in the game coding if they are locked on. A backstab does so much damage because of the 'surprise' behind it. The realism of it is lost if it just does damage because it's a backstab.

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Post by Forum Pirate Tue May 01, 2012 7:15 pm

Whiping around an 18 pound sword as a skinny girl. casting spells. Realism has no hold.

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Post by Rynn Tue May 01, 2012 8:16 pm

Of course not, yet I'm rather certain we're aware of what I mean in this particular incident. You can't just run behind someone in a fight, tap their back, and do an insane amount of damage. No logic dictates that backstabs make sense as they are currently used.

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Post by Sebastrd Tue May 01, 2012 8:25 pm

I'd love to know what folks around here consider "honorable" and "fair" PvP. I've only ever seen a handful of strategies employed by anyone. It all amounts to backstabs, parry fishing, WotG/Pyro spam, or dead angling.

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Post by Forum Pirate Tue May 01, 2012 8:26 pm

no but i can duck a swing, step behind you, and run my sword through your chest or shove a dagger in your kidney, or pull you to the ground/trip you and drop my axe into your face

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Post by Federally Tue May 01, 2012 9:20 pm

Forum Pirate wrote:a couple of things.

Back stabs are almost certainly not going anywhere, its a core game mechanic, the latency is the problem, followed (distantly) by hitbox size.

And hunters have a choice, ganking because you're ganked so often only means you have become what you despise and deserve every ganking you recieve for as long as you gank.

Cite "trauma" or "blowing off steam" all you like, once you gank, you lose all logical basis for your complaints about ganker hosts.

Yeah after getting ganked constantly as a hunter I've figured out the difference. I can tell the difference between the farmers, the PvE'rs and the legit PvP'rs. They all get treated different, gankers I'll play as dirty as I can, or at least force a long drawn out fight to waste their time. The others get a straight up fight with no BS from me and if they bow I bow.

You can combat gankers without becoming a D bag yourself.

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Post by Buggy Virus Tue May 01, 2012 9:42 pm

RantFromRant wrote:

Buggy Virus wrote:People can go for backstabs if they want. The problem is when they only fish for backstabs. It makes sense to hit opponents with a backstab if they leave themselves completely open, you can't get angry at every person who gets one on you.

And fishing is easy to counter if you understand it too.

countering backstabs and fishing is hard when people are laggy as hell but for the most part yes. i love it when people chain bs me and then point down(i know how to counter it but somehoe they can control lag, weird. the same with fishers.) after i just invade again and kick thei *** with my large club.

You can break a chain back stab by rolling directly into the player. And it's laggy if you invade, and I only invade, and then it depends upon your connection to how laggy it is.

No one really uses a lagswitch, more it's just your connection. Although if you do enter a really laggy game you can always black crystal out.

But on removing backstabs I don't think they should be removed at all. There is a reason you can get criticals on someone's back.

I think instead the stab move should be mapped onto the controller so that it is a slow move you yourself need to execute which you only have enough time to get off during ripostes and if you get a really good hit from behind. I think this would solve the unfairness of it.

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Re: Us poor Xbox players

Post by Rynn Wed May 02, 2012 12:03 am

Sebastrd wrote:I'd love to know what folks around here consider "honorable" and "fair" PvP. I've only ever seen a handful of strategies employed by anyone. It all amounts to backstabs, parry fishing, WotG/Pyro spam, or dead angling.

No phantoms, don't flask, don't TWoP, don't backstab.
If you clear the above items, I consider it an honrable duel, even if you spam thirty WoG's.

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