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    Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Azran on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:42 pm

    Hello everybody.

    I'm about to finish my first playthrough with a Lightning Uchigatana +5. I also went with Pyromancy, and I've got a +15/+5 Pyro Glove (plus all the direct damage spells).
    Since I've got to retrieve the Embers again when I start a NG+, I'm asking for tips on the Upgrade Path I should go next, which I plan to follow on another weapon before beating Gwyn.
    I still got to defeat Seath, Priscilla, Gwyndolin and Gwyn.

    My character's stats so far are:

    VIT 40
    ATT 12
    END 40
    STR 20
    DEX 18
    RES 11
    INT 9
    FTH 9

    I'm currently using an almost maxed out Paladin Set, and kind of deciding between a Black Knight Shield or a Balder Shield (already got the first to +4, and the latter to +13)

    P.S: Can I still co-op with people who aren't on a NG+ if I am on a NG+?


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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by BLA1NE on Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:27 pm

    Yup, you can co-op with people on any NG# no matter which one you're on.

    As for the upgrade path, you should start thinking about going Regular as soon as possible. When you start getting far in the +s, elemental doesn't really cut it anymore. Start putting points into scaling stats, Str or Dex, and then think about getting a Int of Fth buffing spell.


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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Azran on Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:54 pm

    Alright. I'm planning to stop at SL150; should I raise Vit to 51? I'm putting all my points from now on to STR/DEX.


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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Sebastrd on Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:42 pm

    I'd pick one or the other for now. Personally, between the two I'd go with Strength. I get the sense that you'll need the damage from those high strength weapons in NG+ and beyond. I can't tell you how many NG+ hosts I run into that just can't damage the 4 Kings fast enough, and I pump the fist whenever I get summoned by a heavy weapon user.


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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Yarxov on Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:18 pm

    @Azran ha, 51 vit is ridiculously high, the most I ever put into vit is 30.
    leave it at 40 and put the rest into Str (until 40-50) then the remainder into dex.


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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Azran on Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:52 pm

    Alright, already starting pumping STR up (it's 24 now).

    I've got a truckload of titanite, so I started upgrading a Longsword up to +14; haven't found a titanite Slab yet (Those Darkwraiths don't want to part with it, even if I'm farming with the Icon of Avarice, Golden Serpent Ring and 2 soft humanity). So, you'd recommend swapping that Longsword for a Claymore? What about a BKGS?


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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Sebastrd on Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:07 pm

    I always farm Darkwraiths with the gold serpent ring and 10 soft humanity. I've gotten 3 slabs so far.

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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by BT90001 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:07 pm

    I try to farm those SOB's and havn't gotten one slab over 4 playthroughs
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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Azran on Tue May 01, 2012 9:22 pm

    Gave up on the Darkwraiths (seriously, they even dropped 2 titanite Chunks at once; ALL OF THEM, but not a single slab. Or Dark Hand for that matter silly) so I just went into NG+ for the Stray Demon slab. Also, just in case, I got a BKGS +5 ready. Would that be enough, or should I go with a +15 Claymore/Zweihander?


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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Karn on Tue May 01, 2012 10:32 pm

    Azran wrote:Gave up on the Darkwraiths (seriously, they even dropped 2 titanite Chunks at once; ALL OF THEM, but not a single slab. Or Dark Hand for that matter silly) so I just went into NG+ for the Stray Demon slab. Also, just in case, I got a BKGS +5 ready. Would that be enough, or should I go with a +15 Claymore/Zweihander?

    The drops are random, also the Symbol of Avarice and the Golden Serpent ring don't stack, either use one or the other coupled with ten humanity for a 410 item discovery rate.

    The BKGS +5 would be good in NG+ once you get there, and on my first character I didn't have too many problems just using my +5 lightning winged spear for most of the playthrough. Though I did switch it out for the MLGS eventually and that fared even better. Find a weapon you like a lot, moveset and stat parameters that match your style of play and work with it from there.

    When I first bought the game I figured there were weapon tiers just like other traditional RPGs and the best weapon was at the top of the tier, I never realized about upgrading weapons and really didn't fully understand it until I almost finished my first playthrough. (I used the drakesword up until I hit the 4k, and I could not beat them using it.) Then I hopped on the wiki and searched up the embers and felt like a huge moron, not realizing that each individual weapon could be upgraded along different paths and damn near all of them still perform well in late game.
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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Extertionist on Tue May 01, 2012 10:49 pm

    Before you go further, keep diminishing returns in mind. Basically stat scaling caps at 40 and you only want to go beyond that if you intend of using a weapon or spell that has a very high stat requirement.


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    Re: Tips on Upgrade Paths for NG+?

    Post by Azran on Wed May 02, 2012 3:32 am

    I can't really get into the Ultra Greatsword mentality, to be honest. I prefer Spears and/or Longswords, though I think I will give the Claymore a chance. Entered into NG+ with my trusty Lightning Uchigatana +5, and I managed to beat Sif, the Gargoyles, the Cats, the Hydra and a titanite Demon in 30 minutes. Go me. I'm almost about to reach 40 STR (just a pair of levels), and since I will also go with Dex, I think a sword will do fine I guess.
    Epic fail at trying to stack the SoA and the Ring

    Thanks everyone for the tips!


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