How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

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    How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:36 pm

    I think the Large Flame Ember was involved in its creation. Ancient rites, Chaos feeding on Humanity, Rite of Kindling....


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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:27 pm

    Presumably she attempted to re create the conditions that originally created the first flame. The large flame ember was originally in new londo but couldve been stolen and brought there so its possible. The rite of kindling is Nito's but that to cpould have been stolen.


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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by Shkar on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:06 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?


    She took a bunch of wood, "covered" it with the lord soul, used a little fire sorcery and, well, you know the rest.
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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:10 pm

    "What you want to do is start with a nice big log. You wanna get that sauteeing in the lord soul. Remember you gotta keep it at a medium heat otherwise you're gonna burn it. Right, next I want you to throw a couple of your sorceries in there, doesnt matter which they alladd the flavours you need. Right, here comes the hard part, its gonna try and take over your mind here so you have to be - *BOOM* RAAAARGH IMMA TREE IMMA TREE.


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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by Shkar on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:17 pm

    DoughGuy wrote:"What you want to do is start with a nice big log. You wanna get that sauteeing in the lord soul. Remember you gotta keep it at a medium heat otherwise you're gonna burn it. Right, next I want you to throw a couple of your sorceries in there, doesnt matter which they alladd the flavours you need. Right, here comes the hard part, its gonna try and take over your mind here so you have to be - *BOOM* RAAAARGH IMMA TREE IMMA TREE.

    Ah yes, I'd forgotten about her ill-fated cooking series. On the bright side, I now have a craving for some capra stew. I'll have to grab my cauldron and head down to the bed of chaos room, the bonfires just aren't hot enough. You need actual archtree wood for fires THAT hot.
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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:18 pm

    LOL pretty funny Imma tree.


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    Post by Chaos Spectre on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:52 am

    DoughGuy wrote:"What you want to do is start with a nice big log. You wanna get that sauteeing in the lord soul. Remember you gotta keep it at a medium heat otherwise you're gonna burn it. Right, next I want you to throw a couple of your sorceries in there, doesnt matter which they alladd the flavours you need. Right, here comes the hard part, its gonna try and take over your mind here so you have to be - *BOOM* RAAAARGH IMMA TREE IMMA TREE.

    My gf and I were in tears laughing.


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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by Chaos Spectre on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:57 am

    WyrmHero wrote:I think the Large Flame Ember was involved in its creation. Ancient rites, Chaos feeding on Humanity, Rite of Kindling....

    So, to answer your question, I've looked a lot into this and listened intently on ENB's lore series, and heres what I remember. As the flames started to die, the Witch of Izalith decided she would try to recreate the first flame in order to continue the cycle. She tried using a soul and her own magic to create it based on what she knew from her lord soul. This, obviously, did not work, and ended up creating the Bed of Chaos.

    What I'm guessing happened actually pertains to Velka, in its own way. Due to what Acid has said about Velka as the first firekeeper and how she wanted to end the cycle, I think she sabotaged the soul. Being the Goddess of "Sin", she must have known that the Lord Souls were pure souls, devoid of "Sin". She wanted to end the cycle, thus, sabotaging the soul that was used in the cloninng by making sure it was infused with sin. This caused the sin to multiply till it turned purely into chaos. If the soul was not tainted, it would have turned into a Lord Soul, pure and bright, but Velka couldn't let that happen, she wanted the age to end.


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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by Eolan on Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:15 am

    Can i ask why everyone assumes the rite of kindling belongs to nito? Technically its quite a way away from him.
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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:25 am

    Because the rogue pinwheel stole it from him.


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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:30 am

    In deed I believe the Rite of Kindling to be the power the occultists were trying to steal from Nito. The pinwheels happen to be the occultists who were either enslaved or made so they couldn'tt escape.

    There should be a link to Nito/ the TotG in the item description. Also Reah and petrus travel to the TotG to find it. It must be linked to Nito somehow.


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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by Eolan on Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:23 am

    This secret rite allows bonfires to be
    bolstered further with Kindling,
    so that even more Estus can be collected.


    Kindling was a sacred rite passed down among clerics,
    but all Undead can imitate the process in the same manner
    that they restore their Hollowing with humanity.
    How peculiar that humans had found little use for humanity until they turned Undead.

    Clerics? Is pinwheel a cleric then?
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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:28 am

    Someone wil post it eventually. And yes, he is a sort of cleric.


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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by Eolan on Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:31 am

    Oooooh what kind of cleric?
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    Re: How did the Witch of Izalith created the Flame of Chaos?

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:33 am

    A cleric of death.


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