Buckler VS. Target Shield

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    Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by CrackSouls on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:17 am

    Looking at their stats, the Target Shield seems to have slightly better Stability. But for some reason the Buckler has a HIGHER STAT REQUIREMENT.
    Is there a reason for this 13 dex requirement? Is the parry window slightly larger, perhaps? I have checked the wiki and haven't noticed any difference.

    Can any of you guys tell me which shield is better? Mainly if there's any hidden pros for the buckler, I should say.


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by RANT on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:22 am

    i always thought the target shield is the best, it would make sense since the thief starts with the best knife and it should have the best shield too(for parrying). its deff better for taking a hit to judge the lag and then parry the next.


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by CrackSouls on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:26 am

    I'm just hoping the Buckler isn't a "mistake" in terms of balance, anyways.


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by CrackSouls on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:54 am

    Why do my posts always die out ultra-fast?


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by RANT on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:10 am

    CrackSouls wrote:Why do my posts always die out ultra-fast?

    its the time, i noticed most people are on around ten oclock eastern time.


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by CrackSouls on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:16 am

    Good to know, thank you.
    I still remember a few weeks ago trying to get a thread started on the RES stat and no matter how I tried it wouldn't take off.
    Then some one else mentioned it, nOt even as the title, and a week later there was a huge thread with studies taken for the info I was looking for! HAHA.

    Woo, derailing my own topic!


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by BLA1NE on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:32 pm

    Well... it's not much, but I think the buckler looks cooler!


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by Yukon on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:41 pm

    ^ have to agree, target shield looks too small imo, And most starting classes have that 13 dex don't they? I think its rather for the size that the requirment goes up rather than the stats in this case. But I haven't ever really used the target shield a whole bunch, I couldn't say which was better.


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by User on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:43 pm

    Barely. I think the wanderer and the warrior are the exception of reach that dexterity. perhaps the sorcerer and hunter as well, although I think they are 12. The wanderer is 14, I know that much.

    IMO, the buckler looks cooler. If I make a character with thief features, I use it with my ghost blade.
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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by Yukon on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:43 pm

    Maybe I just never notice cause I always start as a wanderer tongue


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by User on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:46 pm

    That was the first class I used... I realized later on that curved swords are not the most successful in terms of many enemies within Lordran. Sen's is a good place to use it, thou I will stick with my Curved Greatswords; The Gravelord Sword and Server come to mind when the curved greatsword comes. Boo ya!
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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by Yukon on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:49 pm

    God I love the server, and the curved swords are really great in PVP but not so hot in PVE I find, but then most everything in PVE can take a claymore or two to the face and get up and walk away so...

    I was kind of dissapointed when I first picked up this game after playing demons souls and the weapon attack types seemed to make little difference, my first area of attack was the graveyard, and when I got repelled a few times using my scimitar I thought, huh it must be because I am slashing when I should be using a blunt weapon. Found my morning star and went back to bring the hurt. I think I only did about 7 extra damage... what a difference from demons souls, I had a weapon for almost every archstone in that game.


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:51 pm

    I tested the parry windows for both of the shields on the New Londo elavator. If I remeber correctly, they both got four sparks. Also, the Parrying Dagger got five. But this was a long time ago, so the numbers may be off.


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by RANT on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:54 pm

    Yukon wrote:God I love the server, and the curved swords are really great in PVP but not so hot in PVE I find, but then most everything in PVE can take a claymore or two to the face and get up and walk away so...

    I was kind of dissapointed when I first picked up this game after playing demons souls and the weapon attack types seemed to make little difference, my first area of attack was the graveyard, and when I got repelled a few times using my scimitar I thought, huh it must be because I am slashing when I should be using a blunt weapon. Found my morning star and went back to bring the hurt. I think I only did about 7 extra damage... what a difference from demons souls, I had a weapon for almost every archstone in that game.

    that's one of my favourite things about demon's(which i think its better than dark) you had to change weapons for each world.


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:05 pm

    it would make it easier to counter many of the heavy armor flip tanks that exist today cause heavy armor would be weak to piercing moves.... and really the difference between the buckler and target shield is the weight... not much else...


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by User on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:20 pm

    If you want a thief parrying creature who counters against heavy armor, try the mail breaker. As it does 120 counter damage, and it is made for anti-armour, then the mail breaker can be used for giant and smough users, as well as any heavy users as well.

    The path of weaponry is up to you, thou. Lightning would probably not work, but more so a good scaling weapon such as enchanted, occult, or just regular + 15.

    For the curved greatswords, it seems that the speed is as fast, if not a SLIGHT tad slower, than a normal curved sword... which seems odd to me.

    I love the server, as well as the gravelord sword. However, the speed of the first swing is not the most sufficient at times, as it seems that I would do better with my hammer. When I have the server, I usually equip the evil eye to make my character a leech of power.
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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by djgq42 on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:29 pm

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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by CrackSouls on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:16 pm

    Imarreteet23 wrote:I tested the parry windows for both of the shields on the New Londo elavator. If I remeber correctly, they both got four sparks. Also, the Parrying Dagger got five.

    Thank you, sir! I believe it is the same.

    And it does seem the .5 weight and difference is stability is all there is between these two shields... how odd.
    Well I'm making a low level toon who's going to parry a lot, so looks like I'm using the Target Shield. Thanks folks!


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    Re: Buckler VS. Target Shield

    Post by BLA1NE on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:18 pm

    Don't they weigh the same?


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