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    Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by Sulfur on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:23 am

    Yeah, I'll include the gravelord sword as well.
    Out Pretty much any items that requires demon titanite to upgrade, what is your list of best to worst assuming the player is maxed out on INT, STR, DEX and FTH


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by Railage on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:52 am

    IMO

    Best to worst.

    Chaos Blade: Self Damage is miniscule and it is the coolest looking Katana.

    Great Lord Great Sword: Looks good, decent damage, stunlocks, low stat requirements.

    Gravelord Sword: My favorite weapon against a turtle, although I'm not a fan of the stat requirements.

    Moonlight Greatsword: Awesome looking, good damage, and a useful R2 attack, overused though.

    Dragonslayer Spear: I never use it, but the R2 attack is awesome looking.

    Golem Axe: I like its damage, and the R2 is nice.

    Dragonbone Fist: Needs a damage buffs, and the R2 is slower than death, but if you can land the R2 it's well worth it.

    Lifehunt Scythe: With the right equipment you'll never self bleed, so it's an awesome weapon, but I don't really like the moveset.

    Darkmoon Bow: Meh, it's just like any other bow.

    Tin Darkmoon Catalyst: I don't need a Faith scaling Catalyst.

    Quelaags Furysword: Overused, and I don't like that it's a spider leg.

    Moonlight Butterfly Spear: Lol...

    Greatsword of Artorias: I'll never spread my stats out enough to use that..

    Smoughs Hammer: See Above, stat requirements are redonk..



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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by Rynn on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:53 am

    By far, the worst boss weapon of all existance is the moonlight butterfly's horn. Low damage, horrid range, and it actually takes a lot more stamina then most spears to 'jab' with... which since it was supposed to be a mage utilized tool, just makes the entire weapon more disappointing.

    Ornsteins Spear is probably the best boss soul weapon. While plenty of other weapons are better then a spear, Ornsteins Spear has a longer range then the washing pole, and is the strongest spear in the entire game if you are a faith build, making either it, or the Demons Spear the endgame spears of a dedicated spearman.
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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:56 am

    Dss, mlgs, lifehunt scythe, fury sword, everything else.


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by mugenis4real on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:00 am

    Assuming that the player has maxed out those stats the choice is pretty obvious isn't it? Greatsword of Artorias king
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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by SlakeMoth on Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:15 am

    1. Gravelord Sword, this is my favourite heavy weapon because you don't need to be Charles Atlas to use it (str 24). My favourite with Havel's Armour & Ring and Cloranthy Ring. It's slow, though which is why I reserve it for things like the Giant Skellies in the Tomb of Giants. I'm a katana freak usually.

    2. Lifehunt Scythe. Just love it! Worth getting hold of just for the Demon Firesage and his Ugly Brother when you return to the Undead Asylum. It makes Steak Tartare out of them and it's just so wicked looking.

    As for the rest, they're either too heavy, e.g. Smough's Hammer or their damage is pretty low e.g. Moonlight Butterfly Horn. Orny's Spear is quite impressive but it wears out pretty quick which is why I prefer the bog standard Lightening Spear. There are one or two I haven't got hold of yet as I'm only on my second playthrough with my main character, so obviously I can't comment on them but I plan to ascend Quelags soul into a Chaos weapon this time around. I found the Furysword underpowered.
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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by Dark Spirit EliteBiker20 on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:04 am

    Really? I did not know the Lifehunt Scythe is good against the firesage. I will have to try that.

    My list would be.

    1. Moonlight Greatsword - I absolutely love its magic attack.

    2. Greatlord Greatsword - I love to stunlock... haha.

    3. Greatsword of Artorias - again for stunlocking.

    4. Ornstein's Spear - Good range, ok stats.

    5. Everything else........

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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by RaSoul on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:27 am

    My first character is using the Furysword, that was pretty easy to beat NG, but havent gotten that far into NG+ with him though, but Im looking for alternatives.

    With my Zweihander I was unable to defeat Gwyn (I dont know why), but after failed tries I went berserk and took Havels and Smoughs Hammer.. took me 10 secs to beat him.
    Im going to replace my Zweihander with GLGS soon, heard it is decent.

    Sadly I only got to experience Crystal Ring Shield post-patch... which was a joke.


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by Yesuurd on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:39 am

    MLGS of course, chaos blade and gravelord sword.


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by skarekrow13 on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:42 am

    Only two I've ever liked enough to use:
    Lifehunt Scythe- With a dex and strength combo the damage is great. Hits just about anywhere around you and does make some key baddies bleed like crazy. In addition to Slake's suggestions it makes farming souvenirs of reprisal an easy affair (hint: it can kill harpies in two hits aka as their landing animation)
    Priscilla's dagger- (I know it's a dragon weapon) I swear I'm the only one who likes this but super fast attacks, low stamina drain and I'm pretty sure there's something to that occult damage in PvP. I was doing more damage per hit on flipping tanks than on hollow crossbow soldiers.

    Honorable mentions: Fury Sword, Gravelord Sword, both Swordseseses of Artorias

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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by RANT on Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:22 am

    golem axe and dragon bone fist are my fave, the worst for me have to be the dragon weapons like dkga and the dragon ugs. i havent really used mlgs tha much but i hear its good.


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by callipygias on Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:33 am

    My current playthrough on my main he's using the Moonlight Butterfly Horn. It's a pretty cool looking weapon when you two-hand it and don't have a shield on your back. Makes for a moderately challenging playthrough, too, as it's kinda weak.

    Also enjoy the Golem Axe for similar reasons.


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by Rynn on Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:41 pm

    Also, I'm a bit skeptical on it's actual viability in combat, but I've always been a fan of Daggers, and Pricilla's is no different. I especially like hitting an opponent once with the lifehunt Scythe due to it's massive buildup per hit, and then going to town with Pricilla's attempting to get that one or two hit's needed to knock off 50% at once.
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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 pm

    Chaos Blade is the ****. just saying silly MLGS is obviously the best and probably closest thing to "OP" in the game

    worst has to be smoughs hammer, it could have been a cool weapon, but it was screwed up really makes it even more disappointing, same with Gwyn's sword.


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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:54 pm

    when you land either of smoughs r2 moves though... its to funny for words!


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by mugenis4real on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:14 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:Chaos Blade is the ****. just saying silly MLGS is obviously the best and probably closest thing to "OP" in the game

    worst has to be smoughs hammer, it could have been a cool weapon, but it was screwed up really makes it even more disappointing, same with Gwyn's sword.

    You think they screwed up the G.Lord Greatsword? What about the killer stunlock that thing packs?
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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:42 pm

    mugenis4real wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:Chaos Blade is the ****. just saying silly MLGS is obviously the best and probably closest thing to "OP" in the game

    worst has to be smoughs hammer, it could have been a cool weapon, but it was screwed up really makes it even more disappointing, same with Gwyn's sword.

    You think they screwed up the G.Lord Greatsword? What about the killer stunlock that thing packs?

    Thing is loads of people say that, but others say it's just got same stunlock as other greatswords.. And it's a bit weak lets be honest.


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by User on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:47 pm

    Railage wrote:IMO

    Best to worst.

    Chaos Blade: Self Damage is miniscule and it is the coolest looking Katana.

    Great Lord Great Sword: Looks good, decent damage, stunlocks, low stat requirements.

    Gravelord Sword: My favorite weapon against a turtle, although I'm not a fan of the stat requirements.

    Moonlight Greatsword: Awesome looking, good damage, and a useful R2 attack, overused though.

    Dragonslayer Spear: I never use it, but the R2 attack is awesome looking.

    Golem Axe: I like its damage, and the R2 is nice.

    Dragonbone Fist: Needs a damage buffs, and the R2 is slower than death, but if you can land the R2 it's well worth it.

    Lifehunt Scythe: With the right equipment you'll never self bleed, so it's an awesome weapon, but I don't really like the moveset.

    Darkmoon Bow: Meh, it's just like any other bow.

    Tin Darkmoon Catalyst: I don't need a Faith scaling Catalyst.

    Quelaags Furysword: Overused, and I don't like that it's a spider leg.

    Moonlight Butterfly Spear: Lol...

    Greatsword of Artorias: I'll never spread my stats out enough to use that..

    Smoughs Hammer: See Above, stat requirements are redonk..


    You forgot the crystal ring. And moonlight greatsword is a dragon weapon, not a soul weapon.

    Crystal Ring Shield is a weapon, even if it is a shield. it is the coolest out of any shield you can get, even thou it replaces defence with offence. Similar to the piercing and spike shields.
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    Post by Dark Spirit EliteBiker20 on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:12 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:
    mugenis4real wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:Chaos Blade is the ****. just saying silly MLGS is obviously the best and probably closest thing to "OP" in the game

    worst has to be smoughs hammer, it could have been a cool weapon, but it was screwed up really makes it even more disappointing, same with Gwyn's sword.

    You think they screwed up the G.Lord Greatsword? What about the killer stunlock that thing packs?

    Thing is loads of people say that, but others say it's just got same stunlock as other greatswords.. And it's a bit weak lets be honest.

    I should know from experience... lol...... That sword has great stunlock. It pretty much stunlocks instantly, and even if it has "weak" damage, if you have high stamina, then you can kill enemies no matter what. And yes if you didnt get the hint, I tend to do this a lot..... lol..... dont yell at me either because I'm not the only one that does it....... its actually kind of funny to get messages about how much of a "noob" you are because the person died without a chance.....

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    Post by Railage on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:16 pm

    Acidic_Cook wrote:
    Railage wrote:IMO

    Best to worst.

    Chaos Blade: Self Damage is miniscule and it is the coolest looking Katana.

    Great Lord Great Sword: Looks good, decent damage, stunlocks, low stat requirements.

    Gravelord Sword: My favorite weapon against a turtle, although I'm not a fan of the stat requirements.

    Moonlight Greatsword: Awesome looking, good damage, and a useful R2 attack, overused though.

    Dragonslayer Spear: I never use it, but the R2 attack is awesome looking.

    Golem Axe: I like its damage, and the R2 is nice.

    Dragonbone Fist: Needs a damage buffs, and the R2 is slower than death, but if you can land the R2 it's well worth it.

    Lifehunt Scythe: With the right equipment you'll never self bleed, so it's an awesome weapon, but I don't really like the moveset.

    Darkmoon Bow: Meh, it's just like any other bow.

    Tin Darkmoon Catalyst: I don't need a Faith scaling Catalyst.

    Quelaags Furysword: Overused, and I don't like that it's a spider leg.

    Moonlight Butterfly Spear: Lol...

    Greatsword of Artorias: I'll never spread my stats out enough to use that..

    Smoughs Hammer: See Above, stat requirements are redonk..


    You forgot the crystal ring. And moonlight greatsword is a dragon weapon, not a soul weapon.

    Crystal Ring Shield is a weapon, even if it is a shield. it is the coolest out of any shield you can get, even thou it replaces defence with offence. Similar to the piercing and spike shields.

    Gravelord Sword isn't a soul weapon either, but no one says boo about it.

    Also, why would I put the Crystal Ring Shield on MY list when I think it's a piece of crap.


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by User on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:18 pm

    Its still a weapon none the less.

    And the gravelord sword is a soul weapon, as it requires Demon titanite. It is also from a boss like the moonlight sword. Of course, if you include the moonlight greatsword, would you not also include the gargoyle tail, dragon greataxe, priscilla dagger, and so forth?

    Just saying. It is aiming towards boss soul weapons.
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    Post by Railage on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:39 pm

    "what is your list of best to worst" That was in the OP's post.

    That was my list, those are the weapons I wanted to put on it.

    Now stop being condescending, and just skim over my post, cause I'd rather not have to reply to you.


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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:42 pm

    1.MLGS:with 40 int it is one of the most powerful easiest weapons to use at a normal sl
    2. True GSOA: it does massive dmg and is arguably the best weapon at sl200+, i never use it.
    3.Gravelord sword:has pretty low stat req and great pure pys dmg making it great at lower lvls.

    worse imo is smough hammer its dmg isnt much better then the large club and it has stupid high stat req

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    Re: Boss Items - Best to Worst?

    Post by User on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:58 pm

    Then don't include the Gravelord sword then. If it is not a boss item, don't include it.

    Personally, I think the crystal ring shield is the greatest.


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