Greataxe or Zweihander?

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    Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by Raptrojo on Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:35 am

    Hi i would like to make a char using one of this weapons?whats better?
    Faster?best Movements?
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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:39 am

    Imo the zweihander, hands down. Not quite as strong but comprable speed, much bigger hit box, lower requirements, dead angles really well, tougher to bs punish, the list goes on.

    Oh make both elemental, the scaling sucks.


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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by SublimeSinner on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:04 am

    If you have 40+ str and 45 dex buffing should work well for Zweihander. My +15 gets +312 from having 50 str and 45 dex. The side roll stab of the Zweihander has the reach of long spears. It's one of my new favourites for pvp.


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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by Raptrojo on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:06 am

    and chosing between Zweihander or claymore?the damage and reach makes diference?...clay is faster and very good movements.
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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by SublimeSinner on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:15 am

    I'd say it'll depend more on stamina regen and the Zweihander is a pig on stamina. At 40 end and with the fap ring on I have enough to roll away after 3 two handed swings. Zweihander can help you keep BS fishers and parry addicts at bay if you use its reach. Always two hand the Zweihander as the move set is the same and it felt as though R1 was faster two handed.


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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by RANT on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:40 am

    pve=greataxe+15
    pvp=zwei+15


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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by Raptrojo on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:44 am

    The idea is making elemental,

    125 Pyromancer

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    if i use Claymore

    16 strenght
    40 endurance
    99 vit
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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by RANT on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:49 am

    Raptrojo wrote:The idea is making elemental,

    125 Pyromancer

    24 Strenght
    44 endurance
    88 Vit

    Giant armor,legs,gauntlets mask mother,dark wood ring,ring of favor,grass shield

    if i use Claymore

    16 strenght
    40 endurance
    99 vit

    so vit build? just go with the second one.


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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:51 am

    Nooo don't encourage use of UGS's they are easy to parry if you dont know how to DA and also it encourages him to r1 spam if he vit gouges and uses a zwei/claymore, lets just say that would be a braindead build, at least imo it is. I would say dont use MoM or the giants armor, you dont need it you can go with a cooler less used armor etc;

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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by RANT on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:57 am

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:Nooo don't encourage use of UGS's they are easy to parry if you dont know how to DA and also it encourages him to r1 spam if he vit gouges and uses a zwei/claymore, lets just say that would be a braindead build, at least imo it is. I would say dont use MoM or the giants armor, you dont need it you can go with a cooler less used armor etc;

    Sorry if this was unintentional flaming

    ugs are easy to parry but only if youre close to your opponent, theyre kinda like spears, if you stay back a little and use the poke attack they wont parry you, they best they can do is a partial parry, it takes a lot of practice but it gets easier.


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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by SublimeSinner on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:58 am

    I'd use the *** ring or mom before going beyond 50 vit IMO.


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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by Carphil on Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:22 am

    Raptrojo wrote:The idea is making elemental,

    125 Pyromancer

    24 Strenght
    44 endurance
    88 Vit

    Giant armor,legs,gauntlets mask mother,dark wood ring,ring of favor,grass shield

    if i use Claymore

    16 strenght
    40 endurance
    99 vit

    Fine for me, but if I meet you in battle, do not expect a bow. Nothing personal.


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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by Gol on Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:57 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:Imo the zweihander, hands down. Not quite as strong but comprable speed, much bigger hit box, lower requirements, dead angles really well, tougher to bs punish, the list goes on.

    Oh make both elemental, the scaling sucks.



    Bollocks.
    The Great Axe is faster (it swings faster, the recovery time after each hit is almost non-existent) and has almost the same range (yeah, just test it, you'll see) and has also a better moveset.

    + Elemental ?
    If he plans on playing at sl 120 you couldn't make a worst choice cause the damages are split, the great axe has f*ckin high base damage and a good scaling in str (regular +15 : B Scaling in str and 350 base damage. Zwei has 325 and C scaling).

    I'm using the axe on my str/int, I wasn't sure if I'd use the zwei or greataxe or demon's great axe and after some testing I found out that the axe is the best.

    With only 30 str and 10 dex (the toon is only sl 80 and the axe +14 atm ) I have like 530AR one handed and 6xx+ (don't remember exactly) 2 handed and I've got like 839 2 handed with the buffs.

    And, I know I'm repeating myself but elemental dmgs at sl 120 just sucks and I hate vit builds, not that I lose against them cause I don't but they're just sooooo boring so you better go for something else cause even with that high vit if I parry you, you're dead, and unfortunately UGS are easy to parry.
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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by RANT on Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:07 am

    the ga has better scaling for sure but the OP should just try both a lot and pick the one he likes and feels comfortable with, it doesnt matter how powerful the weapon is is youre not that good with it. i personally like the zwei for pvp and the ga for pve.


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    Re: Greataxe or Zweihander?

    Post by Gol on Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:59 am

    I prefer the Axe, when I say it's the most powerful I don't mean in terms of damage only but also on the other aspects.

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