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    Post by Spurgun Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:46 am

    im so ******* tired of people flipping around. from now on im going to revolt against its use by never using it myself. i have already started to re-roll all of my builds to avoid its use. i would rather wear havels ring than using it, and if i have to i will be med rolling around and if i really have to i will be fat-rolling around. but i will never ever use that ring.
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:58 am

    Good on you bro, most of my builds don't use it, i prefer the 25% equip burden and like 40 poise or if necessary i just chuck on BI legs or Gaunts and naked chest etc for fun xD and then I still have my 58 poise and nice roll silly I only use DWGR on one of my builds
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:24 am

    Its op for sure but thats why most everyone uses it, not a reason not to use it.

    Its like saying assault rifles are op when everyone uses them, in most cases thats the case because their the best thing for the job, and to use something else is to be at a huge disadvantage.
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    Post by Serious_Much Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:26 am

    good luck to you man, though The invincibility frames on other roles are shocking, you'll need a lot of practice.
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    Post by Carphil Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:29 am

    Not actually, the light roll has almost the same invicibility frame, I think the direfence is that the ninja flip goes further. Remember back in Demon's where people were forced to choose between light roll or heavy armor? Oh good old days...
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    Post by dirkdeadeye Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:30 am

    I just like doing backflips..
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    Post by Carphil Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:31 am

    dirkdeadeye wrote:I just like doing backflips..

    Fine as long you don't wear full giants.
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    Post by dirkdeadeye Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:49 am

    Carphil wrote:
    dirkdeadeye wrote:I just like doing backflips..

    Fine as long you don't wear full giants.

    No, I don't like bulky armor, I generally wear the elite knight set.
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    Post by Yesuurd Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:01 am

    My new build doesn't use it, I go rolling like a froggy all around hahaha.
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    Post by RANT Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:04 am

    i actually just started not using it on my new build and i'd just rather block and parry than try to dodge stuff(unless i have fastroll) my winning percentage hasnt doropped that much but it still hard to get used to it.
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    Post by Yesuurd Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:08 am

    We are all crazy about parry these days happy even I am getting better at em.
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    Post by User Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:21 pm

    I never used flip ring except for one character threw the entire game. I had about, what, over 50 characters made. Of course the flipping guy was of almost no Armour and shotels and pike. That was interesting. Of course curved swords in this game are not exactly the best weapon choice to have in PvE. Believe me, I know.

    I prefer to medium roll more so than light. Especially the characters I have now. It seems to fit my character more than a light roll. Plus I can live without it, and my comrade can say I can in my defence.

    Do not bring up assault rifles. That is by far different. A flipper with giants Armour can not exist in reality, no matter how much endurance you actually have. I am sure that there are a few that can roll, but flip? Good luck with that. Assault rifles function as a mostly all situation weapon. Giant with flips is not one of them. Nor any other extremely heavy Armour.
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    Post by Tolvo Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:29 pm

    It sounds like you need to fight me in FC some time Spur, I don't use the Flip ring down there.
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    Post by WyrmHero Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:30 pm

    Acid I think that was an analogy, not a direct comparison. It's about being overpowered/overused in real life and OP/overused in DkS PvP.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:33 pm

    fatrolling is fun! you'd be surprised how much it throws peoples timing off, plus you can wear super heavy armor, the poise ring and a defense ring to make your self a trundeling fortress! i'd suggest full black iron or stone armor as the other heavy armors are far too common, also the steel set isn't bad.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:39 pm

    wyrm got it.
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    Post by Spurgun Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:42 pm

    maybe i could try some fatrolling.

    @forum this wasn’t a rant on how OP the DWGR is, i was just saying that i am tired of it and im not going to use it anymore.
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    Post by WyrmHero Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:45 pm

    Iron Golem armor is the best looking heavy armor.
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    Post by Tolvo Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:46 pm

    Smough's>Everything.

    You see dat sagging booty, those swinging gold pyramids, you know I be getting all the boys jealous, when I roll over them in my golden britches.
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    Post by Spurgun Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:47 pm

    nah, stone knight is the best looking
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    Post by Glutebrah Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:22 pm

    why do people hate the flip ring.. it means you roll at max speed under 50%

    Demon Souls "In order to roll at full speed, the weight of your equipment cannot exceed more than 50% of your maximum Equip Burden. If you're between 50% and 100% of your maximum Equip Weight, you'll roll slowly, and your controller will rumble when you hit the ground. If you exceed your maximum Equip Weight, you'll only be able to walk slowly, and attempts to roll or backstep will leave you momentarily stunned."

    its just like DEMON SOULS WAS 50%!
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    Post by Tolvo Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:29 pm

    The issue is just it means everyone should use it for maximum efficiency. You get heavy armor, heavy weapons, and the fastest speed. So you have the best of all worlds, builds just become too similar as there is a definite "Oh yeah for all intents and purposes this is just flat out better."

    It's like having a game with multiple classes, and one class can just do everything. Why would you pick any of the other classes if you can just pick the super class? Everyone else is at a disadvantage in comparison.

    Though I'd totally pick the "Fights with poop on a stick" guy, just to spite all.
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    Post by WyrmHero Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:29 pm

    Ahhhh Demon's Souls, y u not with me anymore????
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    Post by Glutebrah Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:51 pm

    Tolvo wrote:The issue is just it means everyone should use it for maximum efficiency. You get heavy armor, heavy weapons, and the fastest speed. So you have the best of all worlds, builds just become too similar as there is a definite "Oh yeah for all intents and purposes this is just flat out better."

    It's like having a game with multiple classes, and one class can just do everything. Why would you pick any of the other classes if you can just pick the super class? Everyone else is at a disadvantage in comparison.

    Though I'd totally pick the "Fights with poop on a stick" guy, just to spite all.

    there will always be "best" in every category thats how it is. They could have kept it like Demon souls and kept the burden at only 50% and then everyone would still do what you complain about except wouldn't use a ring slot to achieve it.

    the difference with demon souls was armor didn't make that much of a difference as it does in Dark souls. so it wasn't worth going from light to heavy the damage reduction wasn't much, plus with the unlimited healing it just didnt matter
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    Post by Spurgun Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:54 pm

    please don’t start to fight about that here. like i said to forum, im just tired of seeing it and i am going to use something else instead. i am not complaining about it being to OP

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