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    Requesting advice from the PvP kings out there

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:20 pm

    Hey there, I'm new here - obviously - and I've been trying to get better at PvP. I tried several build, but for PvP it seems that I've had the most success as a mage, so here are my stats and like to hear any new ideas, suggestions, etc... from the forum about what I'm doing right here or wrong.

    SL 82; Vitality 17 (probably the stat I'm looking at upgrading the most now); 5 Attunement slots with Soul Spear x2, Homing Crystal SM, White Dr. Breath, and C. Soul Spear attuned; Endurance 24; 16 for both strength and DEX; and 50 to intelligence.

    My main melee weapon is the Moonlight Greatsword+5 with an Enchanted Broadsword+5 and the Moonlight Butterfly Horn+5 as fallbacks. I use either Logan's Catalyst or the TCC to fire of my spells and I use a Silver Knight Shield+5 as my shield of choice.

    My armor set-up is the Crown of Dusk, Shadow Garb+5, Ornstein's Gauntlets, and Havel's Leggings. My rings are the DWG Ring and the Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring.

    Also, it's not that I'm "bad" at PvP, I win some and I lose some, but I just don't win as often as I'd like and that's the problem for me.

    I apologize for the long-winded post (I know it's a lot to read) but I figured it'd be better to get all the information out there rather than leave some holes in it and open it up to avoidable questions.

    Once again, I'm sorry and give thanks in advance to whomever decides to help me out.
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    Re: Requesting advice from the PvP kings out there

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:24 pm

    I made this a new topic. It'll get more responses that way.


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    Re: Requesting advice from the PvP kings out there

    Post by Rynn on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:27 pm

    First.
    Remove White Dragons... it NEVER works. You'll get more success attuning that with hidden weapon for when you must do melee combat.
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    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:32 pm

    Level up your vitality at least to 30. Exchange White Dragon Breath for Great Soul Arrow (I love WDB, but I can't seem to connect with that damn spell). Great Soul Arrow is surprisingly fast.


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    Re: Requesting advice from the PvP kings out there

    Post by billy_bayonet on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:35 pm

    i think your right on the money bout Vit most players cap at SL120 so you could easily chuck another 20 into vit to give you a decent enough health bar like rynn said white dragon breath is next to useless in pvp recomend getting a normal weapon to +15 and using CMW, also check out the fight club always a good way to hone your PVP skills with some of the best players ive seen playing this game, im no pvp pro i have a decent win to death ratio, i tried loads of different builds and a mage works only in narrow areas and even then very easy to dodge spells


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    Re: Requesting advice from the PvP kings out there

    Post by dirkdeadeye on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:37 pm

    Damnit! I was hoping WDB would work. It scared the pants off me, when I saw the curse bar on that boss fight. I was gonna surprise people with it. But, at least you guys saved me from pumping int another 5 points to 50, and making compromises.
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    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:39 pm

    He has too low dex for the advantage of normal 15 + CMW. His weapons all alright I guess.


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    Post by callipygias on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:40 pm

    White Dragon's Breath works well on the first bridge at New Londo Ruins, but other than that spot I've never dared try it.

    90% of the guys who kill me do it the same exact way. DWGR and FAP rings, one of the masks, and they buttonmash a greatsword in my general direction.


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    Re: Requesting advice from the PvP kings out there

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:42 pm

    Thanks for all the replies, guys.
    Good stuff and real fast, too. You've no idea how much I appreciate all this.
    And, don't worry, I'll be getting rid of White Dragon Breath, I guess I just wanted to use it because it looks cool, but you're all right, the thing just isn't effective enough to warrant a slot.

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    Post by dirkdeadeye on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:44 pm

    callipygias wrote:White Dragon's Breath works well on the first bridge at New Londo Ruins, but other than that spot I've never dared try it.

    90% of the guys who kill me do it the same exact way. DWGR and FAP rings, one of the masks, and they buttonmash a greatsword in my general direction.

    Yeah, it sort of sucks, I haven't learned how to deal with it, since the sword has such a wide arc. I end up dancing around them to find and opening, then they just start swinging. I think if I hit them with a soulspear that should shut them up.
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    Post by billy_bayonet on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:44 pm

    sunlight straight sword+15 will be a killer if he has 50 INT and use TCC to cast CMW soo even tho the stat scaling will be negligable the CMW will make up for it


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    Re: Requesting advice from the PvP kings out there

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:48 pm

    Well, I'm working on upgrading an Uchi to +15, but I'm not sure if I should spend the Slab on it. Worried it might be a waste. I have it at +8 ATM.

    Also, someone mentioned the Hidden Weapon spell, and I am intrigued, but I have no idea how the thing is supposed to work. What would getting that spell do for me?

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    Post by billy_bayonet on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:56 pm

    your oponent will base there tactics on your weapon if they dont know what ur using there fighting "blind" very usefull for the first3-4 swings make them count


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    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:12 am

    Contrary to hidden body, Hidden Weapon is a SUPER spell. It lasts more than 1 minute. Also don't waste a slab on the uchi, your dex is too low. You won't get a good AR with 16 dex. So concentrate on your vitality and good scaling Enchated Weapons. And try Great Soul Arrow, trust me it's very fast.


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    Post by RANT on Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:58 am

    dragon breath is viable but you have to get good at it and not lock on to people, its more of a guessing game but you will get some kills with it, ive only killed like 15 people with it but i rarely use my sorcerer, i like str/fai builds. this video helped me a lot;

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    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:31 am

    Rynn wrote:First.
    Remove White Dragons... it NEVER works. You'll get more success attuning that with hidden weapon for when you must do melee combat.

    If it nnever works then your doing it wrong..... Take lockon off...


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    Re: Requesting advice from the PvP kings out there

    Post by Rynn on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:42 am

    Maneater_Mildred wrote:
    Rynn wrote:First.
    Remove White Dragons... it NEVER works. You'll get more success attuning that with hidden weapon for when you must do melee combat.

    If it nnever works then your doing it wrong..... Take lockon off...

    >lockon
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    You're really funny! It's just one of the easiest dodged spells, I've never hit anyone who knows how to roll with it, since they just roll right through it.


    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Well, I'm working on upgrading an Uchi to +15, but I'm not sure if I should spend the Slab on it. Worried it might be a waste. I have it at +8 ATM.

    Also, someone mentioned the Hidden Weapon spell, and I am intrigued, but I have no idea how the thing is supposed to work. What would getting that spell do for me?
    Hidden Weapon causes your opponent to hsve to play a guessing game on several factors. What weapon your holding, it's range, and of course, it's moveset (which often determines how one might attack)Using it on a spear that you're two handing is enough to confuse more then half my opponents, and there is other weapons it can cause mass confusion with.

    I don't recall if your weapon needs to be a "buffable" variety though.
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    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:45 am

    It has too be buffable.


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    Post by Rynn on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:54 am

    WyrmHero wrote:It has too be buffable.
    That's a shame... reduces it's utility by quite a lot.
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    Post by Rin on Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:02 am

    well spells and spamming them are not realy my thing but for weapons well... first pick a weapon that u like it dose not have to be super powerful as long as it is suitable to your play style its better than anyother weapon....second learn your weapons evary attack its jump attack, how fast it is and how much stamina different hits take...third learn its weaknesses and strengths also learn simple countering techniques...if you want practice with your friends or a random vader if yr feeling lucky... or joinin a player mode cov would be a good idea as people in it will happyly teach you a lot of new things


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