Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

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    Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by True King Doran on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:10 pm

    So I started PvPing in the Forest again, and judging from my experience so far and some of the things said on the forum, it seems that it's just sort of... accepted that anything goes. No bowing, no 1 v.s. 1: no dueling. Just everybody summoning phantoms then ganging up on anyone who invades. Spamming WoG, backstabbing when bowing, fishing for backstabs, chugging estus like it's saint patricks day. Is it really just always like this? I try to be fair and bow before a fight, and not fish for backstabs, but I find myself becoming more and more tempted to just say screw it and stop playing fair. Just looking to see what the actual community thinks on this, because you -just like me- would be the people i'd be ruining PvP for. People who take it seriously, and try to duel, not backstab.


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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by Rynn on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:27 pm

    The forest is corrupted. We don't neccesarily enjoy the 3 vs 1, that's just what you always get with it. Btw, next time you fight 3 vs 1, try having at them before fighting. I get so many comments about how annoyingly honorable I manage to remain.
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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by True King Doran on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:30 pm

    Uh god this sucks... well thanks for the advice at least lol. Guess i'll have to stay fair for now. I might just start hosting in the forest then, hopefully if they see it's just me and no phantoms they'll fight fair too


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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by Rynn on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:31 pm

    A good 60% of us will.
    40% of us seem to just see one person and take the "easy kill" in any way possible though.
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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by True King Doran on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:33 pm

    Guess those are the chances you get nowadays... I miss 4-1 in Demon's Souls =(


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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:45 pm

    As an invader you'll find things are a lot worse, as a host you'll find things better than while invading. But still, some of us hunters get so used to the Bangs that we just assume people are up to something nasty. I still bow in the forest if I see a single person, and check to see if people are genuinely going for the boss or not. My only suggestion, bow from far away. That's about the only advice I can give their on keeping things civil, other than that case by case.
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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by True King Doran on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:01 pm

    sounds like sound advice to me. Hosting it is then, and I guess I won't be a dbag and cave in to the peer pressure of **** pvp tactics. thanks guys


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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by Heroez Blade on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:29 pm

    Personally I agree with you. I always run into people that have phantoms or dark spirits with them or people that spam wrath of gods. I don't know if its just the forest ,but if i invade in undead burg i never have that problem.


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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by cloudyeki on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:30 pm

    I can understand man. I now at a distance and back off when a 2nd invader shows up during a duel. If the host takes the 2nd invader out I 'try' to give him a humanity to heal so we can restate the fight. If he loses I just parry slap the crap outta the 2nd invader for being a jerk.

    Sometimes I'll even end up in a duel line, where I have to wait for the host to murder a red and the a blue before I get my turn.

    I just can't stand the ganks though, and you can usually tell on sight as well as when they rush off to summon. Honestly the forest is a bit lawless, so resorting to cheaper tactics because a jerk ruined a duel seems a bit like FairPlay to me.


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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:30 pm

    It's because the Forest has the highest number of invaders, so if you want to grief invaders you'll get more if you host there. It's as simple as that. You should try to summon one and go for Sif some time, I've never found one that doesn't BC out haha.
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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:15 pm

    in my opinion the forest and dark anor londo are the anything goes areas. i looked down upon all the hosts who used summons(even if it was just 1 instead of 2) but while hosting solo in dark anor londo and the forest i found that you quickly become out numbered. what i like to do in those areas is when im invading unless the summons look like scrubs or are solo i just wait for another invader so we can get a 2vs2 or at least a 2vs3.

    i also host and i actually started summoning and just messaging the person to only 1vs1 and 2vs2 and if they dont abide i crystal them home. while solo at first you will get a duel(usally the invader does not bow) but mid fight another invader ALWAYS shows up and 90% of the time if not more they jump in and both gank you. i used to think differently but now i dont think theres anything wrong with having a summon in areas where invaders come in numbers(forest/dark anor londo) as long as you dont stand at spawn points and gank. the one thing i noticed is unless they are doing the above mentioned ganking spawn points being an invader is actually better because most of the summons suck and invaders are much more skilled so if you host solo you end up getting a 1vs2 except instead of scrub trolls you have to fight 2 decent players.
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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by cloudyeki on Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:26 pm

    Dunno whether to take that as a compliment or not, but I always seem to get the afk partner so yeah. Dark Londo I do wish I'd get invaded there for every trip to the blacksmith there. I've only been invaded twice there and it drives me mad. Doesn't really help my main is well over the 120 so crappers on me.


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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:27 pm

    DM's are typically a high level, as well the ring for invading there has no level restrictions, it just invades whoever is the closest SL. I've never actually gotten to invade Dark Anor with that ring though, just through my Orb.
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    Re: Forest PvP: Fair fights or anything goes?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:29 pm

    I rarely bow invading in those places, its how you eat a css. I'll bow after, but not before unless I'm given 2 minutes to look around for whites.

    I'm also jumped by multiple hunters alot of the time but standard 1v2s arn't terrible. most of the time i can kill combo through 3 or 4 before I'm overwhelmed. (I refuse to summon help, I've co-oped as a host 4 times, all of them being after a trade.)


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