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    PvP dex build

    Post by ilovejuice on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:49 am

    Hi, I'd like to create my first PvP character. Main stat - Dexterity, I was thinking about something like http://tinyurl.com/7mw5hdq - this is just for showing how I'd see this character, not a finished build. That's why I'm posting here - I will be really grateful for any advice due to having zero PvP experience happy
    Is lifehunt scythe a good choice for PvP? I really like the look of scythes and that's why I picked this one, however from what I've already read people talk a lot about weapons like murakamo, chaos blade, washing poles etc - what would you suggest?
    And a build like that can work or it's worth mixing dex with either FTH or INT? Also if power within worth using or it's hard for PvP beginners cause of the life drain?
    Any advice will be appreciated happy
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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:06 pm

    Try the Lifehunt Scythe with minimum stats first, to see if you like it. I love it, but you'll need sometimes to rely on the bloodbite ring or having high endurance, heavy armor.

    Edit: Seeing you are relying on Pyromancy as well I recommend having an un-upgraded Pyro Flame for Power Within because it consumes less health. Why not try SL 120, or are you trying to invade a specific area? If you are going up to 120 put one more att slot for another Pyromancy (Toxic Mist) and the rest to Vit (50) and End (40). The Lifehunt Scythe requires 16 str for one hand. Also this build is for expert PvP. So I recommend the Great Scythe instead (Scythes are difficult to handle but once learn they are awesome weapons).


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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by ilovejuice on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:55 pm

    I'm still not sure about power within cause I have never used it, I just looked into some builds relying on it and from what I've read it's pretty powerful. I think I'm gonna try this build considering your advice, however if I pick great scythe instead of lifehunt (it's easier to handle? not weaker?) how should I upgrade it? If I'm going so high on dex then I guess it's pointless to use something that removes DEX scaling - and if I go +15 it will be weak without DMB/some kind of magic weapon, or am I wrong here? happy
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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:31 pm

    Use Fire/Lightning/Poison Pine resin. 450 Pure Physical AR is not weak, believe me.


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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:34 pm

    The Great Scythe has longer reach and it's almost the same as the Lifehunt Scythe in terms of handling.


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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by ilovejuice on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:52 am

    what about final build like this http://tinyurl.com/77w98rx , any improvement to this one?happy
    is this enough bleed resist to use with lifehunt scythe?
    and it's good with power within or maybe pumping some FTH for miracle use instead would be better?
    btw lifehunt scythe can be buffed with spells?
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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by billy_bayonet on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:22 am

    if your set in using life hunt safe my i recomend +15 uchi it can get the bleed up quite high then swap to lifehunt for last 2 hits will cause blood loss and 9/10 kill them big grin


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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by ilovejuice on Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:04 am

    I've read some more info about lifehunt scythe in PvP and it seems that it's much weaker than great scythe as you almost never even have a chance to apply blood loss... so I guess great scythe will be the weapon of choice. And if it's great scythe +15 I guess I should pick somehting to buff it - DMB or CMW? Or is there another way to make it a powerful build without DMB/CMW (I'd even prefer not to use any buffs if it's still possible to keep up with builds using them)? http://tinyurl.com/89bbads ?
    I'd really appreciate more opinions from some experienced PvP players happy
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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by Invading4fun on Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:18 am

    Get faith to 50 and use dark moon blade and sunlight blade! At 50 faith and dm talisman dmb gives a nice 475 added magic damage happy try also painting guardian sword +15 and buff its a destroyer! Really fast swings, bleed and with the buff around 880 attack rating!
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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by Bito on Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:20 am

    wow i have same build with you and same starting class
    but i will plan using PGS, SKS and Falchion

    maybe i will try Lifehunt Scythe
    this is maybe only weapon in the game that i never used lol
    (i always let Priscilla alive in my game)


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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by Invading4fun on Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:39 pm

    The great scyte is a great weapon and if you buff it you will do well in pvp, trust me. Also now if you start using it dont bother with 1h it, it is alot better 2 handed. Especially the running attack and heavy attacks are really powefull. But be carefull while swinging heavy attacks, some say it is easy to parry!
    Oh and if you feel crazy you can use power within now and then + buff your weapon at same time! Your enemies will fall like trees (if they dont dodge till you die from pw...)
    Cheers!

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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by ilovejuice on Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:48 pm

    Invading4fun wrote:Get faith to 50 and use dark moon blade and sunlight blade! At 50 faith and dm talisman dmb gives a nice 475 added magic damage happy
    Would be really nice, but to get FAITH to 50 I would have to sacrifice a lot of other stats, I'm not sure if it's worth it, and which should i lower then? Or like I said it's better to leave FTH 32?
    Also DMB only has 1 use - it's managable or people just escape until the buff wears off? Isn't CMW better in this case?


    Invading4fun wrote:The great scyte is a great weapon and if you buff it you will do well in pvp, trust me. Also now if you start using it dont bother with 1h it, it is alot better 2 handed. Especially the running attack and heavy attacks are really powefull. But be carefull while swinging heavy attacks, some say it is easy to parry!
    Oh and if you feel crazy you can use power within now and then + buff your weapon at same time! Your enemies will fall like trees (if they dont dodge till you die from pw...)
    Cheers!

    But I guess I'm going to get 14STR anyway even if I will mostly use it 2handed right? or go 10STR? Also I wanted to use Power Within at first but I've read that when you use it people just run away and you mostly die due it's self damage so I don't think it's worth putting into build.
    Thanks for comments and waiting for more happy
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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by Invading4fun on Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:29 pm

    Yea 50 faith is a bit much, but for max damage it is good. Oh and for dmb you must be in darkmoon covenant but I like it, I usually wait till ppl invade me and after each fight i just go to bonfire and refill spells. And slb would be a great secondary buff, thats what I am planning to get (must get to ng for both buffs)
    But if it is your first build I would keep fait or int at 30/32 so that you can get hp and end to about 40 each. With 50 faith and as cleric as starter I have 35 vit and only 30 End. I could add 5 points to end but then I am at lv 125. 35 vit and ring of fap gives almost 1500hp. I recommend to get over 1500 so you dont get ohko by hornet ring users i guess.
    Cmw is btw 1 use also if you use the best catalyst,tin crystal cat. Adds about 355MAGIC dmg with 32 int
    Slb is 309 lightening dmg at 30 faith. Check the resistanses on armors here in wiki, almost allmost all armor have better magic resistance so slb and cmw are pretty equal, slb looks cooler also =)
    Also tcc weights 2,5 and all talismans are 0,3 weight.
    I really dont know best str for dex guys I have on my 2 dex guys 16 str anyways. One is cmw and other dmb with (soon) 50 faith =)

    Ps only noobs run from buffs... usually they get owned even if you take your buff away. Well you cant cancel pw, its more for the lulz

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    Re: PvP dex build

    Post by ilovejuice on Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:50 pm

    Thanks very much, you helped me a lot happy im starting new char-> http://tinyurl.com/74r5jsx now (only need to decide how much attunment I want and whether to put extra points in VIT or FTH)

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