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    Competitive pvp builds

    Post by Katakato on Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:27 am

    A friend of mine started paying Dark Souls and asked me to make him a decent pvp build, i ofc went overboard & made him a list of my favorite PvP builds.

    These are nothing new but i find them to be great competitive pvp builds worthy of any PvP event (like the Fight club).
    Also if someone is looking for a new PvP build they havent tried before maybe some of these will be just what they were looking for.

    All are in the desired PvP Sl (105-125) with a little tweak here & there depending on idividual playstile.

    I know these is a list of PvP builds on the Wiki board but i thought we could have one here.

    Murakumo DEX Pyro – sl 106/126 (class Pyromancer)
    Vitality – 40-50 (Diminishing returns > 50)
    Attunement – 16 (4 slot reserved for Pyromancy)
    Endurance – 30-40 (Max Stamina at 40)
    Strength – 28 (1 hand Murakumo)
    Dexterity – 45 (Fastest Pyro cast)
    Resistance - 12 (Base)
    Intelligence - 10 (Base)
    Faith - 8 (Base)

    CMW DEX – sl 114/124 (class Pyromancer)
    Vitality – 40-50 (Diminishing returns > 50)
    Attunement – 16 (4 slot reserved for Pyromancy)
    Endurance – 30-40 (Max Stamina at 40)
    Strength – 14-19 (14 – min req for most DEX weapons / 19 - 2 hand Murakumo)
    Dexterity – 45 (Fastest Pyro cast)
    Resistance - 12 (Base)
    Intelligence - 32 (Tin Crystallization Catalyst)
    Faith - 8 (Base)

    Faith DEX – sl 107/127 (class Cleric)
    Vitality – 40-50 (Diminishing returns > 50)
    Attunement – 16 (4 slot reserved for Pyromancy)
    Endurance – 30-40 (Max Stamina at 40)
    Strength – 14-19 (14 – min req for most DEX weapons / 19 - 2 hand Murakumo)
    Dexterity – 40 (only DEX build i dont go for 45 since most spells used are Miracles)
    Resistance - 11 (Base)
    Intelligence - 8 (Base)
    Faith - 30 (Sunlight Blade / Darkmoon Blade)

    GMW DEX – sl 107/122 (class Pyromancer)
    Vitality – 40-50 (Diminishing returns > 50)
    Attunement – 16 (4 slot reserved for Pyromancy)
    Endurance – 30-40 (Max Stamina at 40)
    Strength – 14-19 (14 – min req for most DEX weapons / 19 - 2 hand Murakumo)
    Dexterity – 45 (Fastest Pyro cast)
    Resistance - 12 (Base)
    Intelligence - 15 (Great Magic Weapon)
    Faith - 8 (Base)

    Faith STR – sl 106/125 (class Cleric)
    Vitality – 40-50 (Diminishing returns > 50)
    Attunement – 16 (4 slot reserved for Pyromancy)
    Endurance – 30-40 (Max Stamina at 40)
    Strength – 40 (One-hand Demon Great Machete / two-hand 50 Strength-req weapons)
    Dexterity – 8-12 (8 Base / 10 broadens the DEX weapon base)
    Resistance - 11 (Base)
    Intelligence - 8 (Base)
    Faith - 30 (Sunlight Blade / Darkmoon Blade)

    GMW STR – sl 97/112 (class Pyromancer)
    Vitality – 40-50 (Diminishing returns > 50)
    Attunement – 16 (4 slot reserved for Pyromancy)
    Endurance – 30-40 (Max Stamina at 40)
    Strength – 40- (One-hand Demon Great Machete / two-hand 50 Strength-req weapons)
    Dexterity – 9-14 (9 Base / 14 broadens the DEX weapon base)
    Resistance - 12 (Base)
    Intelligence - 15 (Great Magic Weapon)
    Faith - 8 (Base)

    GMW Weapon Master – sl 114/124 (class Pyromancer)
    Vitality – 40-50 (Diminishing returns > 50)
    Attunement – 12 (2 slot reserved for Great Magic Weapon and Pyro)
    Endurance – 30-40 (Max Stamina at 40)
    Strength – 40 (Diminishing returns > 40)
    Dexterity – 40 (Diminishing returns > 40)
    Resistance - 12 (Base)
    Intelligence - 15 (Great Magic Weapon)
    Faith - 8 (Base)

    True Sorceres – sl 112/121 (class Sorcerer)
    Vitality – 40 (minimum for PvP)
    Attunement – 19 (5 slot reserved for Sorceries and Pyro)
    Endurance – 11-20 (11 Base /20 to eqip more gear )
    Strength – 16 (One-hand Moonlight Greatsword)
    Dexterity – 45 (Fastest Sorceri/Pyro cast)
    Resistance - 8 (Base)
    Intelligence – 44-50 (44 Crystal Soul Spear / 50 White Dragon Breath)
    Faith - 8 (Base)



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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:02 am

    Those builds are the basic PvP builds for anyone who wants to start PvP in Dark Souls. They are very nice and reliable. I realize the other day 40 Vit was the minimum for PvP indeed. I was making low Vit builds, but when I got to 40 in one of my toons it was so comfortable. I survived most backstabs, but that means I have yet to become a better player and get out of that comfort zone (so I don't have to rely on Vit, but on my skills).


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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by Rynn on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:14 am

    40 vitality is a neccesity? I've yet to ever build a character with more then 20.
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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by GrEeNgObLiN on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:43 pm

    Rynn wrote:40 vitality is a neccesity? I've yet to ever build a character with more then 20.

    join FC and u will understand


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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by Rynn on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:49 pm

    GrEeNgObLiN wrote:
    Rynn wrote:40 vitality is a neccesity? I've yet to ever build a character with more then 20.

    join FC and u will understand
    I likely still won't. I always have 0-15 poise, so since I get stunlocked easily, I just avoid getting hit. I've killed players with up to 2700 HP before, and I win 75% of my 3 vs 1's.... yet I've never seen a point to having so much HP.
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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by GrEeNgObLiN on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:55 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    GrEeNgObLiN wrote:
    Rynn wrote:40 vitality is a neccesity? I've yet to ever build a character with more then 20.

    join FC and u will understand
    I likely still won't. I always have 0-15 poise, so since I get stunlocked easily, I just avoid getting hit. I've killed players with up to 2700 HP before, and I win 75% of my 3 vs 1's.... yet I've never seen a point to having so much HP.

    well thats even more challenche to join us!
    so we all can test our skills on eachoter?dont see why not?
    i almost never wins in 3 vs 1 but in FC tings turns an you will get better and its soooo fun!


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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by Rynn on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:56 pm

    GrEeNgObLiN wrote:
    Rynn wrote:
    GrEeNgObLiN wrote:
    Rynn wrote:40 vitality is a neccesity? I've yet to ever build a character with more then 20.

    join FC and u will understand
    I likely still won't. I always have 0-15 poise, so since I get stunlocked easily, I just avoid getting hit. I've killed players with up to 2700 HP before, and I win 75% of my 3 vs 1's.... yet I've never seen a point to having so much HP.

    well thats even more challenche to join us!
    so we all can test our skills on eachoter?dont see why not?
    i almost never wins in 3 vs 1 but in FC tings turns an you will get better and its soooo fun!
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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by Forum Pirate on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:10 pm

    The point is to not die in 1 hit because of 1 mistake. Its a matter of mathematical efficiency, If you can build to survive the hit, without losing power, why would you not?

    Everyone tries not to get hit much, I'll eat my hat if even half of the swings taken in pvp situations hit their target, the health is to survive the inevitable hits you will eventually take. By your logic you don't understand the point of body armor in a fire fight.


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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by Katakato on Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:45 am

    I myself am trying to make most builds have 50 VIT but i start grinding my teeth when i realize i can't make a decent build for sl 120 with such a huge VIT investment.

    So i started to drop END & it's actually working out great for me, you just need to menage your stamina better & learn to live without huge Poise which i never rly have.


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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by Ser Isaac on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:10 am

    Wow who downvoted Rynn for just showing her skills? Is that bad? This is a friendly zone talking about pvp playstyles don't be mean if you are getting the impression she is showing-off, she's just telling us how talented she is than most of us. Heck I thought 30 was the minimum. Lol so is the new meta 40 now? That's shocking for me now >.<...


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    Re: Competitive pvp builds

    Post by Rynn on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:51 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:The point is to not die in 1 hit because of 1 mistake. Its a matter of mathematical efficiency, If you can build to survive the hit, without losing power, why would you not?

    Everyone tries not to get hit much, I'll eat my hat if even half of the swings taken in pvp situations hit their target, the health is to survive the inevitable hits you will eventually take. By your logic you don't understand the point of body armor in a fire fight.

    Ah. I just try to build towards -dealing- the most damage possible, I suppose that since I'm usually dealing with Gankers (most of my PvP is in the forest), I've honed my skills more towards just never being hit while dealing tons of damage, since no matter how much vitality I have, it's over once I get sandwiched. Since the talent usually translates well for me in 1 Vs 1 fights, I've never seen a use in getting vitality above 20.

    Katakato wrote:I myself am trying to make most builds have 50 VIT but i start grinding my teeth when i realize i can't make a decent build for sl 120 with such a huge VIT investment.

    So i started to drop END & it's actually working out great for me, you just need to menage your stamina better & learn to live without huge Poise which i never rly have.

    I found that in a majority of cases, I can't viably make use of the 40 end stamina bar... unless I'm building a tank (which can be very fun), I try to keep that around 20-30 at the most. I've had a few chars that stay at the base 10-12... but that doesn't turn out too well for much outside sorcery. 20 seems to be the minimum for me.
    Ser Isaac wrote:Wow who downvoted Rynn for just showing her skills? Is that bad? This is a friendly zone talking about pvp playstyles don't be mean if you are getting the impression she is showing-off, she's just telling us how talented she is than most of us. Heck I thought 30 was the minimum. Lol so is the new meta 40 now? That's shocking for me now >.<...
    > she's just telling us how talented she is than most of us.
    WOW... am I coming off as that type of a person? I'm really sorry, I'll stop speaking now.

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