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    Crossbow uses?

    Post by Sulfur on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:17 pm

    Yeah, I'm confused as to why crossbows are even in the game, they fire maybe just a little faster than a bow, you cant scope with them and the damage on the shots are fairly low, and the shots are easy to dodge as well, what are applications of crossbows in this game?


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Artorias on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:20 pm

    The only useful one is avelyn...


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Sulfur on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:22 pm

    so other than avelyn, they are 90% useless?


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:22 pm

    Well, for pvp they aren't the best. But, for PvE, it's like magic for non magic users.


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by True King Doran on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:25 pm

    Lightning Avelyn +5 with Lightning Bolts is truly a death dealer, try it sometime. But other than that, they're meant to give characters that aren't focused on ranged attacks a way to hit enemies from somewhat of a distance. Some will actually do decent damage when upgraded, so they make a fairly useful offhand weapon considering their low weight.

    If you mean strictly for PvP, well say someone is casting a weapon buff, or a homing crystal soul mass. Chances are, they're too far away for melee range, and if you're a melee character you can hit them with a bolt, hopefully interrupting their cast. Bottom line, don't mock it til you try it. And if you have the materials and souls to spare, the Avelyn really is the best crossbow out there, it shoots three bolts in one second, and has a quicker reload IMO


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Sulfur on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:28 pm

    Yeah, on my 4 playthroughs I havent cared enough to even find Avelyn, because i like my bows too much, but when you put it that way, they dont seem too bad, just not the best idea of a weapon.


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:32 pm

    Crossbows are good because of high base damage and no worries about scaling, so if you are liw lvl or keeping dex/strength low then they can be very useful in pve and even pvp if used right.


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Buggy Virus on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:27 pm

    The helpful thing about cross bows is that you can one hand them, meaning that you can quickly take a shot after you use your melee. This way you don't need to switch to a bow, so if a duelist takes a swing and you roll away you can get a quick shot off.

    If you are using a powerful crossbow or avelyn this can do quite alot of damage.

    They're pretty effective if used well.


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Yarxov on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:52 pm

    ^Your siggy is proud of its negative rep, however, -4 is not a very round number, 5 seems better no? xD

    If I cosplay an NCR Ranger or something I'll 2H an Avelyn for its 'Rifleish' vibe.


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Buggy Virus on Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:06 am

    Yarxov wrote:^Your siggy is proud of its negative rep, however, -4 is not a very round number, 5 seems better no? xD

    Would you do the honors?


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Yarxov on Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:10 am

    Sorry, someone beat me to it lol!


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Rynn on Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am

    Crossbows can be pulled out -and- fired in less then 0.5 seconds when you have 45 dexterity. As a result, your crossbow is a very good surprise blow for harming an enemy, and they often will get wreckless after loosing a third of their HP to a surprise attack.
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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:26 am

    They can be spectacular for glass cannoning. I have a build that uses power within, the red tear stone ring, and a chaos light crossbow. The crossbow isn't my primary weapon, but I have killed several PvPer's with it before they've gotten anywhere near me. A lot of people tend not to bother dodging when they see the light crossbow come out. They just continue to run towards you. With a +5 chaos, 10 humanity, and lightning bolts it's not too difficult to one shot people.


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Yarxov on Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:29 am

    Wouldn't lightning bolts be counter-effective since they split your damage 3 ways?


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Rynn on Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:39 am

    Yarxov wrote:Wouldn't lightning bolts be counter-effective since they split your damage 3 ways?

    Well, Chaos + lightning bolts, and then a 210% damage value...
    Yeah, he'd get more from a lightning crossbow.
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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:07 am

    I'll give that a shot. I wasn't aware lightning had that effect.

    Affect? I dunno.
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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Yarxov on Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:19 am

    affect is a verb
    effect is a noun


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Rynn on Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:19 am

    It's not really the lightning, it's your splitting the DPS inbetween 3 different types of damage, so you end up doing less. Statistically, the lightning crossbow does more damage.
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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by PlasticandRage on Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:29 am

    That makes sense.

    I'm an English major too. I constantly break balls for grammar. Affect/effect is the one I always forget.


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:48 am

    crossbows are also good againsy glass cannon mages, if you can't get close it should only take one shot to kill them so dodge a spell and fire as thats quiker than running up for a hit which often gives them time to dodge. besides crosbows are sexy.


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by RaSoul on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:37 am

    After reading this I'm giving it a shot too. Bows are really not my thing, and Throwing Knives are... well Throwing Knives happy


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Green__Eagle on Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:02 am

    I use the Fire Heavy Crossbow+10 and it is especially useful for low level users. With Heavy Bolts I can take out most game enemies on NG with one shot. Even going against Nito, the Heavy Crossbow does more damage than my Drake Sword+5 in NG+ (solo). It doesn't use stamina either.

    My funniest moment was going against an invader in Undead Parish. He was a pyromancer and my crossbow had a higher trigger rate than his spell. He kept trying to cast and I kept hitting him. He died. I'm trying to be sad (just a little bit).

    Don't overlook the Heavy Crossbow, especially when it is upgraded. In my opinion, 700 Souls for the Lightning Bolts are not worth the cost.


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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Tolvo on Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:06 am

    Well to effect a person properly with a crossbow, you need to practice with them without lock on for the full affect.

    I tend to use it in the forest without lock on and for harassment. A little known trick, if you hold up and aim the centre of your screen at a person and fire, you'll aim at them. It's difficult to learn and judge at first, but effentially you can use it effectively in combat. The affentual damage done will also really confuse people, because they'll not understand how the hell you are aiming haha.
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    Re: Crossbow uses?

    Post by Uparkaam on Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:55 pm

    They can be useful if used correctly.


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