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    Post by RajenRaymen on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:53 pm

    Ok so i was watching EpicNameBro's youtube videos on Dark Souls Lore. So he pointed out that Seath possibly turns stuff invisible due to the fact that his cave has alot to do with invisiblity. It is confirmed that Priscilla's father is Seath. Priscilla can turn invisible and her father may have passed that trait down. BUT it is also speculated that Seath destroyed the old ancient realm of Oolacile. What if Priscilla's mother is from ancient Oolacile. The reason i think this is b cuz Oolacile's miracles have ALOT to do with bending and controling light. (like chameleon)and Priscilla bends light as well. (what if the mother is Dusk Of Oolacile?) :shock:
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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:03 pm

    I thought it was generally agreed upon that Gwynevere was Priscilla's mother? The size certainly makes sense. As well as the possibility of a relationship/**** by Seath. It would also explain why the painting, as well as its guardians reside in Anor Londo

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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:04 pm

    it's possible there is an unknown Oolacile character, most tend to believe it is either Velka, or Gwynevere. But, I can see the idea of him taking a member of Oolacile and maybe trying to tap into their bizarre magical affinity.
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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:25 pm

    A lot of people think that Gwyndolin made Gwynevere that large so she would seems more powerful and stuff while in reality she's actually a lot smaller (see he statues). With Seath its hard to tell whether he had children or just got a woman and experimented on her till a kid was grown. Personally I like Acidic's theory Velka was the mother and then my own idea that he imparted his research on Oz's magic into her genetic code when he grew her allowing her to use Oz magicat will..


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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by Buggy Virus on Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:47 pm

    It would make sense from the mother to be from Oolacile, but then again, Seath may just have the Oolacile magic being that he has done so much extensive research and just passed that down to Prinscilla.


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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by Argetlam350 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:20 am

    I believe that Priscilla is the child or Velka or maybe some child from Ooracile but was taken by Seath and used in his experiments that maybe he passed on some of Ooracile's magic or something. I don't believe Seath is her actual father just seems to strange.


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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by Reaperfan on Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:55 am

    RajenRaymen wrote:It is confirmed that Priscilla's father is Seath.

    Little bit of a nitpick from me, but it's not actually confirmed until FROM says so or something in the game (item description text, NPC dialogue, etc) explicitly states it as being the case. Seath being Priscilla's father is still just speculation, though it is the most probable of the various theories as to who Priscilla's parents were.

    I've never really believed Gwynevere to have been the mother since Gwynevere left Lordran to be married to some Fire Lord in another land during Gwyn's rule (can't remember the guy's name, but it says it in the Ring of the Sun Princess's description), as well as the fact that Priscilla shows no signs of having Sunlight powers that she likely would have inherited if her mother had been the "Queen of Sunlight."

    Considering where you consider Velka to be from, that seems like a more likely possibility to me than Gwynevere, but we really have no idea what Velka's powers are exactly and so have no way of really showing that she is connected with Velka in any way.

    Now I'm gonna disclaimer a bit late here that I'm not a heavy lorecrafter, but my gut instinct is telling me that her mother is most likely Dusk or a random maiden he had captured. Dusk was a master of the Oolacile light-based sorceries, and is found trapped within a Crystal Golem. It makes sense to me that in his search for magical knowledge after the defeat of the Everlasting Dragons, Seath captured her and studied her illusionary magic which is where he learned the art of invisibility. He then sealed Dusk away as a method to preserve the source of his knowledge of light sorceries, and began conducting experiments on captured maidens to attempt to find a way to blend the light-based magics with his own. He eventually succeeded in this process and the result was Crossbreed Priscilla.

    There's probably a million holes in there that Acidic or someone with more lorecrafting experience will correct me on, but right now this makes the most sense to me :|


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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:00 am

    My Priscy cosplay uses Hidden Body, so yeah it might be a possibility, along with Dusk being trapped in a crystal golem (coincidence?). But I like Velka more for being the mother, (dark miracles from Velka, her dagger deals occult damage....).


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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by DoughGuy on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:01 am

    Not as many holes as ypou would think reaper. A fair few people would agree with your assessment. Gwynevere left with fire god flann and now resides in Carim with the other old gods. I think the 2 main contenders are Dusk and Velka. Velka because of Acidic's proof and Dusk because of the turning invisible stuff.


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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:17 am

    being a god can velka posses or empower people she finds favorable? dusk is highly attuned to magic and such so she seems like a good vessel for a female god... velka in spirit, dusk in body?


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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by Reaperfan on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:27 am

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:being a god can velka posses or empower people she finds favorable? dusk is highly attuned to magic and such so she seems like a good vessel for a female god... velka in spirit, dusk in body?

    That's a bit of a stretch if you ask me. We don't know enough about Velka to be able to really even infer what she can and can't do, and in all honesty, even if Dusk hadn't been sealed away since ancient times, she hardly seems like the kind of person the Goddess of Sin would find worthy of possessing. Dusk basically embodied the peaceful ways of old Oolacile, and being so bound to the ideas of peace it seems unlikely she would be a worthwhile candidate in Velka's vision of bringing punishment to others.


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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:44 am

    say, how old is priscilla anyway? 100's of years? 1000's?


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:00 am

    Anyone ever considered Dusk as the mother? Just sayin


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    Post by Reaperfan on Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:08 am

    ViralEnsign_ wrote:Anyone ever considered Dusk as the mother? Just sayin

    Read my first comment lol


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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by skarekrow13 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:41 am

    I'm in the Gwynevere as mom camp (yeah I know that she probably isn't as big as the illusion suggests but is probably around Gwyn's size) but the statue looking over the painting is pretty persuasive. As for daddy, I don't think I saw anyone mention she's part Dragon (dagger is scale upgradeable). One parent at least is likely the same. Her eyebrows are actually little white horns and she has what looks like lace around her collar but appear to be scales starting to form. Also, I don't think those are robes, at least part look like furry wing(lets). Only one other dragon I know of whose genetics lend themselves to white coloration. Also, why is she in the painting? The doll suggests she was pulled into the painting, possibly out of grief and loneliness. Was daddy mad that she was growing scales and he can't even get past five o'clock shadow, and ignored her? Was mommy worried daddy would try to take the scales for himself and hid her from his existence? Next time on "As the Dragon Turns"

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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by Rin on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:54 am

    well i have my own speculation... i think Priscilla is in fact Gwynevere child and that the flame lord is a dragon i think Gwynevere hid ther relationship and when the child was born Gwin took her away from Gwynevere possibly telling her the girl was a danger and that he killed her. So because of that Gwynevere left londo


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    Re: Crossbreed Priscilla's Mother

    Post by theforsaken85 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:34 pm

    Anyone ever thought that Seath may be the CREATOR of Priscilla? I mean, all of those experiments may be only to create his own race or siblings. Priscilla is a Crossbreed, created from Seath and probably one of the "Gods" DNA. All of those failed experiments, Womens in Crystal Golems (Sieglinde and Dusk), Rhea and the women's cries heard right above the Pisacas (probably the Pisacas crying). They are all failed experiments. The only one that is close to a success is Priscilla .... Her "father" is indeed Seath. Her "mother" ... can't be sure.
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    Post by skarekrow13 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:45 pm

    I've said that a few times before and others have brought it up for sure. It seems to be the most logical explanation to me.

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    Post by Shabbalaba on Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:25 pm

    Also the possibility of her mother being a character not in-game / not
    Mentioned in-game...just a thought.

    - personally i lean more towards the Dusk theory - i think it makes the most sense - if all of Oolacile and all of the people were destroyed (fact via Dusks dialog) :

    My home of Oolacile was reduced to ashes, long ago, in my time.
    I have been alone ever since…
    But to be summon's thus, and to be of service to thee… It is… most rewarding…
    Oh, forgive me, such a long past time is none of thine concern…

    ...leads me to this question WHY was Dusk spaired and trapped in a golem ?

    I guess the same goes for why was sieglinde trapped in a golem - although i like to believe she was captured by seaths men, and than seath was like you morons...i said Maidens, not onion armor
    wearing females! And trapped her in a golem as he had no use for her.


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    Post by MediocritasAurea on Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:28 pm

    I also think Seath is rather "a creator" than real father to Priscilla. Though that makes question, was Priscilla "planned" or accidental creation. Seath combined with lifehunting daughter would certainly be deadly combination. On the other hand, there is no other "creatures" like Priscilla so I think she wasn't planned by Seath like: "Oh, I want daughter with ability to kill gods". But well, I think that who is Priscilla's mother may not be important as she is more a creation than born from some kind of releationship. Just my opinion =).

    Just wondering was Seath happy about Priscilla's abilities or feared too... (with assumpitation that he really is Priscilla's father of some sort)


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    Post by Shabbalaba on Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:34 pm

    Do we know 110% that Seath is the father of Priscilla??

    -im trying to think of where or what makes this a fact....could it also be possible that She is Seaths sister?? Im just thinking out loud here - so please dont murder me via reply posts.


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    Post by MediocritasAurea on Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:03 pm

    At least what I know there isn't any real proof that confirms that Seath is Priscilla's father. So we dont know 100% sure. But maybe dlc will give new information, maybe...


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    She's half dragon for sure so that means that one parent or gene donor (depending on theory) would be a dragon (not a wyvern or drake). The doll and Ariamis connections mean she was a child when the painting was made which was after Anor Londo was built. Anor Londo was built after the extermination of the dragons save three potential. The gaping dragon, the everlasting dragon, and Seath. The gaping dragon is a symbol of gluttony and the id and is not a likely candidate unless used for just genetic material. There's no reason to believe a goddess or other humanoid would mate with it. The Everlasting dragon is likely female since all the other firekeepers seem to be. It's not necessarily a keeper but it's proximity suggests it is. Also not in it's favor....it's hiding. There's no connection to it anywhere outside the lake so while it's possible it went up or the other parent went down to meet it there's no evidence. That brings us to Seath. Known for experiments, known for insanity, known for betraying his own kind out of fear of death. He sacrificed his entire species willingly so he could live. All of that is either fact or heavily supported in game. Finally, Priscilla has scales. Little ones but I'm fairly confident that's not lace at her neck and scalp I believe. So you have on one hand a treacherous, scaleless villain who is willing to murder anyone to unlock how to be immortal. On the other hand you have a mystery half dragon who has scales, was considered "an abomination" and (this is my theory I could try to link to) a child of pure loneliness and desperation who chose to live in a cold painted world rather than her given existence. The most logical scenario to me is Seath wanted a "child" in the hope of finding the scales he was missing to achieve true immortality. The Crystal is very much fragile immortality and a far cry from the scales which grant everlasting life (everlasting dragon?) Of all the in game dragons, Seath is the only one I can make a case for as being half of Priscilla's genetic code.

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    Post by MediocritasAurea on Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:11 pm

    skarekrow13 wrote:She's half dragon for sure so that means that one parent or gene donor (depending on theory) would be a dragon (not a wyvern or drake). The doll and Ariamis connections mean she was a child when the painting was made which was after Anor Londo was built. Anor Londo was built after the extermination of the dragons save three potential. The gaping dragon, the everlasting dragon, and Seath. The gaping dragon is a symbol of gluttony and the id and is not a likely candidate unless used for just genetic material. There's no reason to believe a goddess or other humanoid would mate with it. The Everlasting dragon is likely female since all the other firekeepers seem to be. It's not necessarily a keeper but it's proximity suggests it is. Also not in it's favor....it's hiding. There's no connection to it anywhere outside the lake so while it's possible it went up or the other parent went down to meet it there's no evidence. That brings us to Seath. Known for experiments, known for insanity, known for betraying his own kind out of fear of death. He sacrificed his entire species willingly so he could live. All of that is either fact or heavily supported in game. Finally, Priscilla has scales. Little ones but I'm fairly confident that's not lace at her neck and scalp I believe. So you have on one hand a treacherous, scaleless villain who is willing to murder anyone to unlock how to be immortal. On the other hand you have a mystery half dragon who has scales, was considered "an abomination" and (this is my theory I could try to link to) a child of pure loneliness and desperation who chose to live in a cold painted world rather than her given existence. The most logical scenario to me is Seath wanted a "child" in the hope of finding the scales he was missing to achieve true immortality. The Crystal is very much fragile immortality and a far cry from the scales which grant everlasting life (everlasting dragon?) Of all the in game dragons, Seath is the only one I can make a case for as being half of Priscilla's genetic code.

    Your post made me think that scales thing newly. Isn't it actually kinda odd that Seath want those scales? He has anyway that primordial crystal which is certainly fragile as you said but are scales actually any better? Everlasting dragons were extinguished by first real fight against lords and scales didn't help too much in that fight. So do Seath want scales because immortality or maybe because he want to be similar compared to others or maybe both reasons?


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