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    Post by billy_bayonet on Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:58 am

    for those of us that played demons souls and loved it do you think they should have added the same sort of miracle into dark souls, im in a split opinion about, if it was in i reckon youd need 50 faith to cast and one time only, and can only cast in human form not hollow or invading?


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:08 am

    An issue I see with that is this, Flask+Second Chance, the host has such an impossible advantage especially considering ganks. I'd have to kill a ganker twice before I am safe from his buddies, and that is a world I wouldn't want to play in.
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    Re: second chance

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:29 am

    Aye, actually if it was exclusive to Invaders, now that would be good... as gankers flasking would be matched winking


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:30 am

    But then people fighting griefers would be really outmatched. It just seems like it could really hurt the community as a whole, and would need a lot of balancing. Maybe it would only work in PvE, like a boss fight, but it won't trigger if a player kills you?
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    Re: second chance

    Post by Carphil on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:00 am

    But if both invader and host cast, it would not be a problem. Demon's wasn't unbalanced. The problem is the ganking, not the miracle


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Digitalyzed on Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:16 am

    Or, you could have it so the host and invading phantoms could use it. The thing is the host can only use it if no other friendly phantoms are summoned, and the invader only if they're the only one present in the hosts world.


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Yarxov on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:19 pm

    1v1 griefers are still common.


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Buggy Virus on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:25 pm

    It simply doesn't seem realistic to me. I know people thought it was even by the fact that both people could use it in Demon Souls, but that meant it only really felt fair when both people were using it, and whenever one wasn't it really wasn't.

    This means the easy fix to this ability that only felt worth it when both players had to use it was nerf it entirely. That way we are sure both players are on even ground.


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    Re: second chance

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:37 pm

    ummm... heres a vid from demons where second chance was used alot... mind you the protagonist is uncommanly skilled...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYtD0UR3NT8


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    Re: second chance

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:38 pm

    The only time I miss SC is when I'm sparring.


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Yarxov on Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:41 pm

    ^ Put Blue Tearstone to symbolize a yield


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:43 pm

    So that's what ganking looks like in Demon's Souls. Man, it's like watching what it was like for my ancestors to fight gankers. lol
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    Re: second chance

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:53 pm

    what if second chance could only be used as part of the princess guard? and it would have the highest faith req in the game like 55?


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:57 pm

    Pring in the WotG glass cannons then.
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    Re: second chance

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:02 pm

    Yarxov - good idea. The only problem would be people wearing the RoFaP ring and the DWG ring.


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Uparkaam on Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:30 pm

    No, I wouldn't want SC back. Three ganking James Bonds? No thanks. I'd rather take on the Four Kings naked and unarmed.


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:31 pm

    "For Souls Gankers?"

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    Re: second chance

    Post by billy_bayonet on Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:24 pm

    ahh coool nice to know your opinions i neva used it in pvp on demons souls only on boss fights, just wondered what it would have been like in dark souls...and also theres no hyper mode in dark souls i loved equipping the clever rat ring and morion blade, arrow were death !!


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:25 pm

    See now if you could just use it for boss fights it might seem a bit out of the spirit and make the game easier, but there's no real balance issue when it comes to that point. Plus on NG+++++++ when one false move is death, I think it would be really useful to players. So if it was only usable in the boss room I can't really think of a reason to complain about it.
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    Re: second chance

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:52 pm

    Didnt like it in demon and dont want it in dark or any future souls games....


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Artorias on Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:06 pm

    Oh how i love demon souls, pvp was so much more balanced back then.


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Chaos Spectre on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:02 pm

    Actually, Second Chance might be hidden in the game somewhere still. Glyphblade would know that what i say is credible to a text dump a while back. Second Chance was waaaaaaay different than in Demon's Souls though. It acted like a ring of sacrifice, but reusable instead. It could still be connected to the pendant. There is also a boss that is a reference to kings field that isnt found yet, and possibly a secret gravelord servant boss. Cant wait to crack this mystery.


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Yarxov on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:24 pm

    ^Wait what? Theres a boss we haven't found yet?


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    Re: second chance

    Post by Chaos Spectre on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:58 pm

    It was found in the text dump, but no ones gotten to it, most suspect that its pertaining to the secret of the pendant. However, even with all the people who have tried, no one besides From Software knows how to get to it


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    Post by Chaos Spectre on Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:10 pm

    Just checked the txt dump again, the miracle is called escape death, not second chance. My bad.


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