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    Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Yesuurd on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:25 am

    So I made this build for fun pvp after watching videos and it is very interesting but I have some doubts:

    vit-10
    att-19
    end-40
    str-24
    dex-40
    res-8
    int-50
    faith-8

    I already know DMB would have been a better buff but I chose CMW and I am glad since I am not
    very keen of being a DM, I am always a DW.I am using unupgraded flame with power within,
    buffing my washingpole with CMW while wearing Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring, Tin crystalization
    catalyst and sanctus on my back, I also have red tearstone equipped.

    My doubts are:

    Is it completely true pyromancy flame ascendance only affects the loss of hp but the percentage of
    power gained by power within is the same?

    Does the Dragoncrest Ring affect the power of my buff?

    Is getting my health down to activate red tearstone really viable? I mean I already have 10vit
    I could change that ring for the Lingering Dragoncrest.

    Lastly, if I use lingering dragoncrest will it affect how long my power within lasts
    aswell as my CMW buff?

    Thanks.



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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:28 am

    It does not increase the damage done of PW, just the health drain.

    It does not increase the buff.

    It is viable, you'll just have to rely on dodging.

    It will effect your PW, and make the health drain take the same amount of health just over a longer time, meaning you take less damage per second. With the RTR though don't use PW unless you are going to use it at the end of PW. And yes it will increase the length of CMW.
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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Yesuurd on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:33 am

    Interesting, thank you Mr.T



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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:34 am

    Maybe some time I'll make an A-Team covenant haha.
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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Yesuurd on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:43 am

    Yes!

    Another question, how much does the dragon shout increase attack exactly? I don't see it on the wiki.


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:45 am

    Wyrm told me last night I think, but I can't remember. Message him, he should know.

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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by PPG-3- on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:03 am

    40%?
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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:04 am

    It does a different amount depending on your rank.

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    Post by PPG-3- on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:11 am

    I would hope 40% would be the highest amount.
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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Yesuurd on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:22 am

    Ahh forgot about the rank


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Rin on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:33 am

    lol i know all you need to know...
    the roar lasts 10 seconds it dose not affect your miracle, sorcery or pyromancy damage
    your hand 2 hand damage is greatly increase
    the damage buff and stun range increases with your covenant rank the damage will increase for every rank, 25% at rank 0, 27.5% at rank 1, 30% at rank 2 and 35% at rank 3


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by PPG-3- on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:35 am

    thanks for that. +1
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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Yesuurd on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:35 am

    Rin wrote:lol i know all you need to know...
    the roar lasts 10 seconds it dose not affect your miracle, sorcery or pyromancy damage
    your hand 2 hand damage is greatly increase
    the damage buff and stun range increases with your covenant rank the damage will increase for every rank, 25% at rank 0, 27.5% at rank 1, 30% at rank 2 and 35% at rank 3

    Thank you! :alien: +1 to both who helped...


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Rin on Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:13 pm

    i think also i found an effective way to use the fire breath in 2v2 (well if yr with a phantom) if your enemy is a bs you can spam the breath when he/she is going for the back of your phantom and because the enemies took damage before the bs there should be no bs damage some1 should check this but it worked for me...(pliz dont use this in a bad way...well if it still works that is)


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:13 pm

    Rin please don't post how to do glitches, it is frowned upon and against the rules.
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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Rin on Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:29 pm

    w8 thats a glitch :shock:


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:43 pm

    10 vit! Well atleast you will die like a boss.


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Baal-Avatar on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:48 pm

    10 Vit might be a little low. lol. Essentially you are trading off the ability to kill someone in 1 or 2 hits for them killing you in 1 hit. Your damage will be very high, but I would question if you would actually enjoy playing this build for a long period of time. After a few players kill you in one hit it may not be that fun.
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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Rin on Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:34 pm

    yeh on all my dragonoid builds i have 50 vit...unless you aim to1 shot bs your going to find yourself in a pickle


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Yesuurd on Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:49 pm

    @Mil

    Hey! yep dying like a boss maaaany times lol. I have used it very little, it's an experimental build still though.

    @Baal

    Yeah I will test it out a bit further but I have a hunch that I will either discard it or refine
    it later on, but who knows maybe it surpasses my expectations.Although the few fights I have had using it have not shown me so much damage as to be too impressed yet.

    @Rin

    Probably gonna have to rethink it then.

    P.S-On the topic of dragonoids, got OHK'ed many times over today at the forest by a dragonoid BS BOW using glitcher, had never
    actually seen anyone do it in game only videos, very enfuriating.


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by reim0027 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:35 pm

    At 10 vitality, a Sanctus shield may be useful with PW. Since it only takes off 1% per second, and the Sanctus gives 2HP per second, the drain may come close to the gain.

    But, anyway, you are a severe glass cannon. Virtually any hit is a OHK. I can't wait to fight you with this build. Gonna be intense.


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Yesuurd on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:20 pm

    Yes I am using the shield, I decided to use lingering ring and ROFAP, don't care for red tearstone that is too extreme in pvp, I fought today with it and it was pretty cool.

    It's at the pit but I can't host.


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Rin on Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:16 am

    yes the bow stabbers are a big problem givin all dragonoids a bad reputation... i never seen any one do it in pvp... i would also advice to not try it as once you start cheating it will be hard for you when it get patched Bow


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by Yesuurd on Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:31 am

    Thanks Rin, but I know it's a cheat I would never use it.
    And the tactic was having 2 phantoms wave and bow while the dragonoid
    stood with ring of fog waiting, people can still come up with new
    cheaper tactics each day worse.


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    Re: Let's discuss my Dragon GC Build.

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:30 am

    Good choice on the ring too. If you are going to fight in places where you get jumped, have some diving blessings on you too.


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