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    Post by Buggy Virus Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:41 am

    So I've never bothered with the chaos upgrade path because for low level characters I figured lightning and fire was the way to go and for higher level characters I would go with scaling weapons instead.

    So I never really tried to figure out how chaos scales, is it only by humanity?
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    Post by BLA1NE Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:54 am

    Scales up to 10 Humanity.

    At max, it outdamages both other elemental upgrades. But when you have 0 humanity, it's a lot weaker. (Also, this is not taking into account enemy weaknesses. More are weak to lightning than fire, I think, making lightning the better option. But lightning gets annoying fast, whereas fire stays cool! So if you're going to go fire, and aren't afraid to walk around with some humanity on you, then go chaos.)
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:01 am

    actually most humanoid enemies are weak to fire in fact everything outside of dragons and the beasts of demon ruins are weak to fire. however player resistances vary, light armor is usually weak to fire while heavy stuff is weak to lightning but people tend to stack lightning defense since so many people use lightning weapons.
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    Post by Buggy Virus Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:10 pm

    BLA1NE wrote:Scales up to 10 Humanity.

    At max, it outdamages both other elemental upgrades. But when you have 0 humanity, it's a lot weaker. (Also, this is not taking into account enemy weaknesses. More are weak to lightning than fire, I think, making lightning the better option. But lightning gets annoying fast, whereas fire stays cool! So if you're going to go fire, and aren't afraid to walk around with some humanity on you, then go chaos.)

    Cool, then I'll consider chaos upgrade for some of my low level pvp characters.
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    Post by reim0027 Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:19 pm

    Chaos is my favorite elemental path. But, you need to keep at 10 humanity and that can be a pain sometimes.
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    Post by Sebastrd Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:07 pm

    I just upgraded a weapon to +5 Chaos, and I can tell you the difference between that and +10 Fire is minuscule. Assuming resistances affect Fire and Chaos the same, I can't recommend going with Chaos.
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    Post by Buggy Virus Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:31 pm

    So it is miniscule? Even at 10 humanity?
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    Post by Glutebrah Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:39 pm

    Buggy Virus wrote:So it is miniscule? Even at 10 humanity?

    Fire weapons is a 50/50 split in damage between fire and physical. Chaos is more fire heavy. I prefer chaos for pvp since you will always have over 10 humanity.
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    Post by Sebastrd Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:58 pm

    Buggy Virus wrote:So it is miniscule? Even at 10 humanity?

    Like 4 points minuscule, at 10 humanity.
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    Post by Buggy Virus Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:42 am

    Well, not going to bother then.

    Did you have it at level 5+ against fire 10+?

    And what weapon?
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    Post by Sebastrd Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:30 pm

    +5 Chaos Winged Spear, comparing to the numbers for a +10 Fire Winged Spear on the wiki. I don't have enough spears or slabs to make both, unfortunately.

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