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    I want to evolve

    Post by spidermafi on Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:18 pm

    Hi there,

    i've played Dark Souls for about 400 hours with several toons. I never cared much about the 120 SL cap and always ended up trying something new so most of my toons are SL 160 and up and focused on Faith/Dex. Most of my pvp was really fun, I think I'm a fair duellist (no BS, no spamming WotG against other fair duellist ...)

    Now I'd like to create two new toons for FC (if you accept me happy) and Co-op.

    these are my ideas so far

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=370949618

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=196077178

    The first one with focus on Int is my next projekt. What do you think of it?
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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by berkut on Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:22 pm

    I have about as much knowledge about builds as Tolvo knows about not wearing tight pants.

    That being said they look fine to me, I'm sure that the fight club crew would love to have you join them for their next session happy

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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by spidermafi on Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:33 pm

    Thank you. I'll will try to join next time, but since i'm from germany i have difficulties with the timezone. But I'm looking forward and do my best
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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by RANT on Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:47 pm

    welcome to the forums dude, but why the 20 str is there a specific weapon you wanna use? i never put any dex in my builds(str/fai builds is all i have).


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by trollsalt5001 on Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:19 pm

    seem like solid builds
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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by GrEeNgObLiN on Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:31 pm

    No worries im from Belgium and i always plays every saturday starting from 1a2 am till 5 a6 am so your not the only one


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by Yesuurd on Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:10 pm

    The washing pole needs 20 to 1h maybe that's it, welcome to the forum and I am glad you want to participate in FC, hope to see you soon.



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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by RANT on Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:39 pm

    oh ok. these are my two main builds, if you like str weapons you should try them, specially the DGM, MSGS and the clubs. the first one is my paladin leeroy build and the second one is pretty much the same thing but pure faith with enough str to wield most str weapons.

    http://darksouls.itsthatguy.com/?c=Q2xlcmljLDEyMCw0MCwxNCw0MSw1MCw4LDExLDgsMzA=

    http://darksouls.itsthatguy.com/?c=Q2xlcmljLDEyMCw0MCwxNiw0MSwyOCw4LDExLDgsNTA=


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:09 pm

    Welcome to the wiki man! What's with this talk about accepting you in the FC?? Of course, you're welcome, just read the PvP rules, and meet us down there. We have a dedicated chatroom. If you are friends with any of the fighters down there, have them send you an invite to the chat. If not, send me a friend request and I'll invite you myself.

    About your builds (IMO):

    Build 1: 19 att is really too high (for PvP). Most spells are easily dodged and aren't worth the stats. The best int spell is Crystal Magic Weapon. Maybe decrease your Att to 10 and Int to 44. Put the rest of the points elsewhere, either Vit or Str or dex, to increase your Washing Pole damage.

    Build 2: Faith of 40 really isn't worth the extra stats. I'd go either 30 (canvas talisman) or 50 (darkmoon talisman). Anything in between really doesn't justify the points, IMO. I'd also add DMB buff (unless you don't want to be in the Darkmooon Covenant), possibly WoG. Put the rest of the stats into Str or Dex to increase your Washing Pole's AR.

    But, that's only my opinion.


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by Forum Pirate on Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:11 pm

    You can't, I'm giving you an everstone


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by spidermafi on Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:13 am

    reim0027 wrote:Welcome to the wiki man! What's with this talk about accepting you in the FC?? Of course, you're welcome, just read the PvP rules, and meet us down there. We have a dedicated chatroom. If you are friends with any of the fighters down there, have them send you an invite to the chat. If not, send me a friend request and I'll invite you myself.

    About your builds (IMO):

    Build 1: 19 att is really too high (for PvP). Most spells are easily dodged and aren't worth the stats. The best int spell is Crystal Magic Weapon. Maybe decrease your Att to 10 and Int to 44. Put the rest of the points elsewhere, either Vit or Str or dex, to increase your Washing Pole damage.

    Build 2: Faith of 40 really isn't worth the extra stats. I'd go either 30 (canvas talisman) or 50 (darkmoon talisman). Anything in between really doesn't justify the points, IMO. I'd also add DMB buff (unless you don't want to be in the Darkmooon Covenant), possibly WoG. Put the rest of the stats into Str or Dex to increase your Washing Pole's AR.

    But, that's only my opinion.

    You are probably right about the 5 ATT, but I was killed the other day after a 4-5 min fight by an invader who only used a cataclyst and a crest shield. Whenever i attacked him, he seemed to anticipate my moves and casted a spell right when I was recovering from my swing. Never fought a guy (girl) like him (her). It was quite impressive and inspiring.

    About the 2nd build, I don't know the difference in the SLB damage of 30 Faith compared to 50, so I thought 50 Faith would be best. About the WotG, i kind of got tired of casting it, because i can usually kill any enemy Who can't dodge it with my washing pole anyway.

    GrEeNgObLiN wrote:No worries im from Belgium and i always plays every saturday starting from 1a2 am till 5 a6 am so your not the only one

    Sad but true: my wife gets really upset if I play till the early morning and then the sleep till noon Sleep
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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by nsane32 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:20 am

    might I recommend making you main weapon enchanted since you have high int or use the magic weapon buff


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by spidermafi on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:29 am

    Good idea - will make a enchanted Washing Pole too
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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by RANT on Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:40 pm

    you should deff go with 30 faith if youre only gonna slb as your main spell.
    30 faith=309
    50 faith=406

    that's for slb, 50 faith works better for spells.


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:51 pm

    Am I the only one who stops at 40 faith?
    Its not wasted points, 30-40 makes a bigger difference. its 90 ish extra damage from slb and 200 for wog.

    now 40-50 is wasted points. The talismine change is irrelevant, you get roughly 60 more damage for the 60 seconds your weapon has slb. Not worth the health, endurance or base damage that has to be sacrificed. even an extra spell slot would be better, carry other miracles or multiple casts of slb. at 40 faith, nothing needs to be cut


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by RANT on Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:19 pm

    its wasted points if hes gonna use slb only and wog is kinda weak anyway, specially when everyone has maxed out gear, 90 is not worth it imo but it is up to the OP to decide, i have a 30 faitha and a 50 faith and i dont see much of a difference in wog with 30 and 50 faith(i tested it against full giants+5) it wasnt even worth it having it with with the crown and the ring to boost it so i use it without boosts.


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:24 pm

    really? depending on their gear, my wog hits for 4-600, 5-700 with crown. Paired with a follow up bs (from my relatively weak iaito) thats 9-1200 damage unbuffed. seems worth it to me, it means, at worst, i need to land 2 gs hits. at best 1 iaito swing will end it.


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    Re: I want to evolve

    Post by RANT on Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:38 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:really? depending on their gear, my wog hits for 4-600, 5-700 with crown. Paired with a follow up bs (from my relatively weak iaito) thats 9-1200 damage unbuffed. seems worth it to me, it means, at worst, i need to land 2 gs hits. at best 1 iaito swing will end it.

    yep, i was really disappointed at the boosts but i wanted to test it on giant's cause that's all i see outside of FC which feels like i keep fighting the same guy over and over again lol. i rather have 50 faith and no crown, i prefer 54 poise to the crown.


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