Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

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    Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by HorukuDark on Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:52 pm

    I want to make essentially a copy of "Oscar" to play and eventually PvP with.

    Equipment: Astora's Straightsword
    Crest Shield
    Elite Knight Armor

    Seeing as FTH will probably be leveled quite high, don't see the harm in throwing in a talisman of some kind in there either.

    My question is what you guys think my stats should be at 120. I'm pretty much completely new to PvP in this game, thus lacking the knowledge of how to build for it. If you have any suggestions on in what order to level them on the journey there, it'd be appreciated as well happy I just really love that armor and simplistic sword and shield style/appearance. Wanna practice it and "main" it or whatever silly

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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by RANT on Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:59 pm

    what about this? not the most original but you can use a lot of straight swords with 16 str/dex. my faith build has 28 str and no dex.

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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:16 pm

    to make the most of the sword...you'll want something like this

    40 vit
    40 end
    12 att
    27str
    30dex
    base res
    base int
    30 fth

    this'll let you two hand the sword for max str scaling bonus before diminishing returns and get a good bonus off of dex and faith, the faith will let you cast greatheal and wrath of the gods, the two utility spells you might need.


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:18 pm

    How about 40 Dex / 30 End.

    Edit: He could also have 40 faith for maximum Magic AR scaling, if he isn't going to use Sunlight Blade then the 40 faith isn't so bad, canvas talisman gets 190 Mag Adj.


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:28 pm

    30 and 50 are the best levels to get faith to... 50 for true max ar before diminishing returns, 30 for majority of spells, and yeah less end would work well since the armor is fairly light..


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by bloodpixel on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:29 pm

    I recommend getting Elite Knight to at least +9.


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by Reaperfan on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:33 pm

    You'd be best off going hybrid is what I'm thinking. Something like this is what I have in mind, taking advantage of all the sword's scalings by going 40 into each Str/Dex/Fth, and using the RoFaP to make up for your losses in Vit/End. I also really like Sparkly's ideas with the spells, so I put those in as well. I left the second ring slot open because it's really all personal choice there, but what my mind is going towards is either Wolf Ring or DWGR.

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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:36 pm

    oscar fat rolls.... with a straight sword though mobility is a must... i wonder if havels ring would bring you up to regular fast roll...
    26.8 for armor+
    6 for shield and sword
    and +.3 for talsiman=
    33.1

    33.1x4 =
    135 or so.

    30 end gives you base 70 equip load
    70+70% (havel+rofap)= 119...

    40 end gives base 80
    80+70% = 136...

    so at 40 end you could have fast roll...

    lvl 130 v.s lvl 120 isn't that different though


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by Reaperfan on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:38 pm

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:oscar fat rolls.... with a straight sword though mobility is a must... i wonder if havels ring would bring you up to regular fast roll...

    If you're referring to the build I put up then it still allows medium rolls :|


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:42 pm

    Here you go, the scaling is bad but you get maximum 396 AR with those stats. 24 End with FAP ring is more than enough, you don't have a large weapon, eat Green Blossom when needed. Substitute Wolf Ring with DGWR as needed, you won't get fast roll @ 40 End, so don't waste it.

    mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=309676251

    Edit: Reaper's build looks pretty cool too. If I would use this build, it would only be for riposte, the AR is too low. So it's best to have more vitality for mistakes. Also be sure to spend 4 Slabs on that Elite Armor.


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:45 pm

    i found that with rofap and havels at 40 end he could fast roll! spent a while calculating... and reaper i just meant that the npc oscar fat rolls, or at least he does when i've seen him.


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    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:47 pm

    Yes he fat rolls lol, little endurance maybe he has lots of vitality and 40/40/40 str dex faith, respectively.


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:50 pm

    http://darksouls.itsthatguy.com/?c=Q2xlcmljLDEyNiw0MCwxMiw0MCwyNyw0MCwxMSw4LDMw

    this version can fast roll with rofap and havels equiped and has the spell slots for great heal and wog!


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by HorukuDark on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:53 pm

    Wait Elite Knight can be upped past +5? ...Assuming troll? If not, obviously highest upgrades for all equipment.

    I'm liking the idea of 40/40/40 STR/DEX/FTH. RoFaP and DWGR is probably what I'd go with seeing as I'd need to put a decent amount of points into END for rolling. That being said, the END would also be good for stamina obviously, so I dunno. It is a big point hole, though...


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:55 pm

    Not trolling, really. Also don't worry too much on end, use the green blossom.


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by Reaperfan on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:59 pm

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:http://darksouls.itsthatguy.com/?c=Q2xlcmljLDEyNiw0MCwxMiw0MCwyNyw0MCwxMSw4LDMw

    this version can fast roll with rofap and havels equiped and has the spell slots for great heal and wog!

    Not to sound antagonistic, but why not just go with a medium roll and DWGR if you're aiming for fast rolls? With your build here you're basically just cutting out 32 AR from the weapon to get the <25% roll, and with a weapon this weak you'll want everything you can get :|


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:01 pm

    Also if you got 27 str and you parry, riposte 2 handling the sword you get same AR as 40 str one handed riposte, you just have to practice. Also for backstab if you are playing in the outside world.


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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:03 pm

    i've just had better experiences with the fast roll than i've had with the dwgr is all. whenever i try to evade traps in sens with the dwgr the shots hit me, but with fast roll they go over my head.


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by Reaperfan on Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:06 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Also if you got 27 str and you parry, riposte 2 handling the sword you get same AR as 40 str one handed riposte, you just have to practice. Also for backstab if you are playing in the outside world.

    In this situation though, wouldn't it be better still to do the two-handed riposte with 40 Str?


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    Re: Oscar Build - Astora's Straightsword, Crest Shield, Elite Knight Armor +5. What stats?

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:08 pm

    It increases 3 AR only :/ with 40 str 2 handed.


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