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    I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:33 pm

    Mobs take a third of my HP with one strike, and I have 40 Vit. I can't play with an SL 120 build. And light armor? Pfff.... I say people playing NG+++++++++ are ridiculously good players.


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by RANT on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:47 pm

    I helped a guy in the duke's the othber day he was in ng++++ holy crap those giant smurfs hit hard, almost a ohko


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:55 pm

    Hahaha, I you just have to learn to not get hit! winking


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by RANT on Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:04 pm

    Yeah, in later levels you have to knnwo how to dodge, armor will do you no good.


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by bloodpixel on Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:19 pm

    Lol, even with my havels legging and gaunlets with +9 elite chest and helm, Mobs can pretty much destroy me within seconds.


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by befowler on Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:34 pm

    Yes, as NG+ the mobs don't seem much worse in terms of life - I can still kill them pretty quickly on offense. But you do not want to get hit at all. It's a nice way to return back to your days as a wee noob. Even the easiest areas are now deadly again.


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by SlakeMoth on Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:15 pm

    Oh great! I'm sure I read somewhere that newgame+ is harder but after that the difficulty level doesn't rise that much. Is this true?
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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by bloodpixel on Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:17 pm

    Not sure, but it seems war harder at NG++++ to me....


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:49 pm

    Diminishing returns affect every part of the game! The jump from NG+ to NG+2 isn't as significant as the one from NG to NG+, and so forth, but they add up.


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:57 pm

    With 1600HP and full Giant's +5 with the Ring of Steel protection, Ornstein once one shot me with one of his swings when I was doing Co-Op at SL120, I don't want to know what NG the guy was on, I'm very frightened thinking about it.
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    Post by Dr. Demento on Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:27 pm

    From NG to NG+ the enemies have 1.5 to 2x's as much health..not sure about the damage.


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by Green__Eagle on Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:38 am

    Yeah, Damage output goes up from the enemies at NG+

    That's what makes low level runs challenging. Until you hit the Four Kings, then you want to give up.


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    Post by Dr. Demento on Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:45 am

    I know! There were 3 of us who went down there. Noone lived to speak again. We tried and failed we Tried and died.


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by Rin on Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:22 am

    iv gt a lv 220 on ng++++++ with 40vit i use dragonoid dwgr n hornets when in a place with enemies that can be bs...even the trees i shot kill XD tolvo try killing the bed without getting hit even once tongue i did it on my 1st try 8)


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:41 am

    Rin, I did have to do bed without getting hit once, I was on a low end low vit toon, one hit and I died. That's why it was so hard for me.
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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by vageta31 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:41 am

    Boss damage is scaled by your level so no matter how high you get, the damage scales with you. Also NG+ isn't more "difficult" as the enemies act identically to the way they did in NG, they simply do more damage and have more hps. If you can get through NG without getting hit, then NG+ won't make it harder to dodge. Assuming you don't get hit the only thing that really matters is if your damage output is high enough to handle it.


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by Guest on Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:14 am

    NG+ is easy because you have 90% of the items already.
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    Post by Rin on Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:25 am

    yeh a lot of the people on drs overuse shields n when fighting an enemy that takes 1/2 of their stamina thay find themselves in a pickle
    i on the other hand underuse shields (dont use them at all) n cliffs are my gratest enemy winking fear the cliffs :shock:


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:26 am

    See, I only use shields to parry. But on NG+++ in Co-Op, the enemies can sometimes have lag issues and suddenly, I just got hit for 1.5k Damage, I'm dead. :pale:

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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by callipygias on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:59 am

    vageta31 wrote: Also NG+ isn't more "difficult" as the enemies act identically to the way they did in NG, they simply do more damage and have more hps.
    Are you certain? Seems like I notice a difference in enemy behavior as well as damage. An simple example would be the Undead Parish. When I come from the bonfire/Andrei I'll backstab the crossbowman first, and at NG+infinity the nearest sword-soldier is in my face by the time the animation is half through 99% of the time, on a new character it isn't nearly so often. Seems to me the "ferocity" of some enemies (including bosses) is cranked up as well.


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:22 pm

    I've never noticed a difference in AI between any of the NG+'s, just health and damage.
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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by Rin on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:30 pm

    there is a difference in ai im sure of it CD used a different attack on one of the ng's

    another time in londo the sniper on the left moved after i went for the one on the right(something he didebt do in ng+ or ng++)n shot me in the back

    thers more but i forgot tongue


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    Post by Guest on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:42 pm

    Attacks are the same. If anything NG+ is harder only because you go in overconfident like you can own everything. Not saying you can't but sometimes that cockyness can get you killed. It's happened to me a few times when I just feel like breezing through slashed up enemies with no regards to my own safey. I find as you play more you tend to bait enemies less which is fundamental in surviving as a n00b.
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    Post by Rin on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:50 pm

    Oo1Zer0 wrote:Attacks are the same. If anything NG+ is harder only because you go in overconfident like you can own everything. Not saying you can't but sometimes that cockyness can get you killed. It's happened to me a few times when I just feel like breezing through slashed up enemies with no regards to my own safey. I find as you play more you tend to bait enemies less which is fundamental in surviving as a n00b.

    he dident kill me :shock: when in that narrow path he did a slow punch attack that left his fist in the ground for a few sec but on one of the ng he did a much faster flame explosion attack


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    Re: I hate NG+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Post by Guest on Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:08 pm

    He can do both in NG & NG+. Also I was speaking in general.

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