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    Post by Tolvo Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:03 am

    Could have used more Cowbell, but looks good for now.
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:05 am

    I think you need to be more definitive. Less questions. You could say something like - This lesson we have determined that Seath is attempting to create crystal scales that wil finction like stone scales. etc
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    Post by cloudyeki Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:08 am

    This is all speculation, but crystal scales do sound most fitting.

    Very well then. We will return to this peculiar beast at a later date, but for now we can conclude this. His allegiance is to his self. Seath may be the greatest opportunists to exist in Lordran. Or maybe the second. Only time will tell.
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    Post by Tolvo Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:08 am

    Now time for me to rest up so I can register for summer classes in the morning!
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    Post by cloudyeki Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:13 am

    From his appearance he has chosen to use crystal scales in place of the proper scales he was born without. His magic is also connected to crystals, which are able to curse his enemies, most likely to harvest the bits of the soul that remain in the stone corpse. Seath was extremely close to his goal of immortality, but at the end of his life he was felled by an undead who destroyed his life's work.

    Rest my students, but remember why you are all attending this class. Since it's friday night, no homework. But I expect you to be ready for monday's class. You're all dismissed.
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:15 am

    Just out of interest, WHY WAS THERE AN EASTER FRIDAY CLASS? Next thing you'll be telling us we have in class assignments on christmas day.
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    Post by Tolvo Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:16 am

    Non-Christian students will just get ahead in class. silly
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    Post by cloudyeki Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:16 am

    Because I enjoy working on my birthday. I kid I kid. Today's class was to hopefully set the pace of how all the future classes will be like.
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:00 am

    Just watched - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZuAgUAQGQs&list=UUI6keWArpxmfeiuAATv7jZw&index=10&feature=plcp. We need to get this guy on here.
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    Post by Tolvo Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:46 am

    I've actually tried, but he told me he's just too busy with work and moving around every now and then because of work that he just can't see himself getting into a Forum. He possibly lurks though, I'm not sure.
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    Post by DoughGuy Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:56 am

    That sucks. Its would be great if we could get him here. n+1 heads are better than n heads.
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    Post by Imarreteet23 Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:02 am

    Hello professed eki, sorry I missed yesterdays class. I hope this won't go on my permanent record?
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    Post by cloudyeki Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:40 am

    Well I am a little disappointed, I'll let it slide. Be here tomorrow for class on time. I will require you to bring some research for tomorrow though, to make up for missing yesterday's class.
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    Post by Imarreteet23 Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:43 am

    Yes sir! I'll have a 20 page history report on time, don't you worry.
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    Post by cloudyeki Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:46 pm

    Alright class, it's time to begin another session. Submit any research you have to discuss, and then we'll move on to today's topic.
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    Post by Imarreteet23 Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:10 pm

    Right, so, as per your request, i have decided to talk about soapstones.

    Soapstones are basically items that are used to traverse time, but, each one does somthing differerent. White allows you to bodily traverse the flow of time and help, red lets you do the same but harm, and orange lets only a message traverse time. And, as a side note, red is the only one you must be human to use.

    But what are these strange items, and how do they traverse the flow of time? Well, i think we can figure out the answer quite simply: When used, the animation is the same as for some miracles. Which leads me to believe that these strange items are tailismans, but not in the the traditional sense. As someone pointed out, tailismans are made out of cloth, but these are clearly NOT made out of cloth. I'm pretty sure that everyone here agrees that miracles are reading stories, yes? So, maybe engraved onto a tailisman is a story? Thats all i have for today.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:34 pm

    Soapstone? That's a load of schist!!!

    Geology joke aside....nice info. To add to that, soapstone has a variety of uses. One of which is to mark things (similar to a chalk line for carpentry or when working with fabric). The markings from a real soapstone are used as they aren't permanent. I think in game that the stone is used to write on the ground. This goes right with your similarity to miracles in that there is a mantra/story or ceremony that goes along with the magic nature. Dark Souls soapstones could be called "Magic markers."

    Edit** I did some looking for pictures of modern soapstone markers (like this). So now we can all go and buy white soapstones and see what happens cheers
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    Post by cloudyeki Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:49 pm

    hm, never really thought anything about those markers (except it's fun to write on the wall) but that is something to come back to on a later date.
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    Post by Imarreteet23 Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:51 pm

    I will buy a white soapstone and walk around on the street, asking random people if they would like to jolly co-op. I will probably be arrested.
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    Post by cloudyeki Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:57 pm

    I'd gladly join you if we can praise the sun together.

    On topic, today's subject is on miracles, seeing as they need some love and I'm not the best guy to come too about this subject.
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    Post by Imarreteet23 Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:01 pm

    Here's an interesting question: If Seath is the father of sorcery, who is the father of miracles?
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    Post by skarekrow13 Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:17 pm

    Ok....time for my independent study findings. I hope to be able to do these daily during lunch break. For today's project, a single miracle (that works out perfect with today's topic):

    Force, from the wiki-"Common miracle among cleric knights. Create shockwave.
    This quickly-acting miracle inflicts no damage, but propels foes
    back and defends against arrows. Cleric knights use this miracle when
    charging into enemy mobs."

    The low faith requirement for this miracle (12) means that anyone with basic belief can learn to use this at will. The number of uses (21) suggests that the user was not meant to be shy about spamming and constant use. This miracle has an overt lack of subtlety as well. It is merely a blast of energy that does what all blasts do...push things around. The lack of damage output shows that, in addition to being common it is a basic miracle.

    The real question with this is....why am I talking about all that like you didn't already know all of this?
    I believe that this miracle has a purpose beside the mere fact that it pushes things around. What differentiates a cleric knight from a regular knight? Faith. Where does faith come from? It starts in the self and roots into the spirit. However, faith is not a singular beast and can take many forms and sizes. I posit that force was used to indoctrinate knights into the role of clerics. Knights with a small amount of faith could be shown how to perform this miracle easily and in large numbers. Knights who demonstrated an increased interest or aptitude for this miracle could then be taught more complex ones. The act of learning this miracle would itself lend the user to have more faith..."I used to have to push things with my hands and along comes a priest, and with the will of God I can do this!!! Sweet!" Simply stated, when evidence of God has been provided, it removes some doubt and allows faith to grow. So my theory is that Force is a gateway miracle that leads to the use (and later abuse) of harder, more serious miracles.

    In addition to assisting in the initiation of knights into the religious order and the battle uses, this spell would have been a great diplomatic thing to know. Imagine how quickly arguments amongst the rabble could be quieted with a quick blast of "mostly harmless" (second time I've used that reference on the sly) Force. As knights in general were intended to protect their land, a land, etc. they could keep the peace with medieval less than lethal technology. Verily, Force was the shotgun loaded with bean bags of the day!
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    Post by skarekrow13 Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:19 pm

    Lol....leave a white sign with your name, followed by a message with directions:

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    Then you hide somewhere nearby and pop out when someone touches it. Conversation is not allowed, only gestures.

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    Post by cloudyeki Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:01 pm

    magnifico skare. I do believe that is why force is such an easily obtained miracle. I hope you don't mind me placing this finding on the entrance chart (first post)
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    Post by skarekrow13 Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:26 pm

    Everything I add is fair game. I just expect to see some YouTube soapstone surprises in the near future

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