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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:51 am

    You people need to stop repping me up, I'm getting to Mildred levels.
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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:54 am

    Your just too damn popular Tolvo.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:56 am

    Aye, I kinda wish I could be you at times Tolvo. That aside, I do suppose you I might assign a short paper from any student willing, on a single spell. It's creation, it's purpose, and why that spell specifically.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:57 am

    I'm pretty sure it's actually just because I post so much. Probably if someone can figure out the ratio a lot of other people have a higher percentage of their posts voted up, while mine is probably like .0001% because I just post so damn much, I end up with reps on at least one random thing a day. Quantity over quality has somehow worked out for me haha.

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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:04 am

    at a later date, Tolvo. You've already an assignment. Now off with you, the janitor needs to clean and I've to get ready for the next class.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:06 am

    Aw, you are supposed to assign the Teacher's Pet even more extra work...Fine, I'll get to Logan while naked as a dragon.
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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:12 am

    Tolvo - Forum Jock. 71/2581 = 0.0275

    For the short paper thing -
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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by skarekrow13 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:15 am

    Ok....who added statistics to the class. That's just not fair.

    I am always up for research. Rather than impose my crazy theories on everyone like normal feel free to give assignments so at least my crazy expletive can be focused toward things you would like to discuss.

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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:19 am

    Stuff!

    EDIT: I think I'm going to go to sleep, I don't even remember posting this...After finish up with Logan!
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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:51 pm

    Welcome back class. I do hope you all have had some time to think over the subjects we've gone over. To start off today's class, I'd like you to present either a theory you have had lingering in your skull, or research that you've conducted in regards to magic.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:57 pm

    Good afternoon professer. Today, i'd like to present some research i did on sorcery. So I looked it up on dictionary.com, and heres what came up: "the practice of malevolent magic, derived from casting lots as a means of divining the future in the ancient Mediterranean world. Some scholars distinguish sorcery from witchcraft by noting that it is learned rather than intrinsic. Other scholars, noting that modern witches claim to learn their craft, suggest that sorcery's intent is always evil and that of witchcraft can be either good or bad. In the early Christian era, the term was applied to any magician or wizard but by the Middle Ages only to those who allegedly practiced magic intended to harm others..."

    A couple things that i noticed. First of all, it would appear that sorcery is generally an evil thing. Next, I don't know about the first part, about them casting "lots," but, that some scholars differ witchcraft and sorcery by one being learned, sorcery, and one not, witchcraft, it would appear that you can draw parallels between "witchcraft" and pyromancy. And the next part also adds up, that sorcerers are always evil, but witches can be good or evil, which also sound alot like pyromancers. Some are evil, like quelaag, but others are good, like Laurentious. Just thought i should say that.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:01 pm

    Extremely good find Ima. Would anyone want to discuss this?

    Note the Witch of Izalith used an older fire arts, we could assume that this was the 'witchcraft' that pyromancy derives from. Sorcery originates from Seath, possibly from his dragon heritage instead of his research. It could even be that his sorcery comes from the Primordial Crystal he took.

    We can infer that Seath wanted to prolong his life, so sought out ways to replicate the scales he lacked. His research lead him to the correlation of souls and crystals. When you die from a curse, your body will appear in anothers world, turned to stone and covered in crystals, and you find that your life has been halved. My theory is that the soul resonates with crystals, and when you are cursed, a piece of yourself remains in the crystals that cover your stone body.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:57 pm

    This would explain why with soul magic you can cast spells that attach crystals to them. Perhaps in doing so you are actually destroying souls that are trapped within a bonfire, or at least forcing them outside of a place of rest until you've used their energy up?
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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:40 pm

    Just to point out Cloud that list I posted contains every magic in the game. I thought it would be helpful if you put it in a spoiler in the OP and strike throughed each spell as finished researching it.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:42 pm

    Good idea Dough. now seeing as we've had a bit of a slow day (it's friday, I'll let it slide) I'll wait on the rest of the students to come in and give us some theories.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:13 pm

    Tolvo wrote:This would explain why with soul magic you can cast spells that attach crystals to them. Perhaps in doing so you are actually destroying souls that are trapped within a bonfire, or at least forcing them outside of a place of rest until you've used their energy up?

    We know you can use things like soul arrows, then you have soulmass. What if the next step IS crystal? If you collect enough soulmass in an area it becomes so dense it crystallizes? So when you are cursed those crystals are actually parts of your soul trapped.

    The witches of izalith originally used flame sorceries. At the time the main driving force behind humanity was the first flame so it made sense that the sorceries would use that power. Now with the darksign the main driving force is souls. So now with the flame sorceries lost sorcerors turn to the soul for their next power source.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:41 am

    Then I might ask, how are the golems created? They do give out souls when they're defeated after all, are they actually a pure being made of concentrated souls?
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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by DoughGuy on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:47 am

    Yes. Pure crystallized souls. You gain souls from killing them as in death their body cannot hold onto its structure and souls can leak from the crystals


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:50 am

    As well if the Primordial Crystal could have a similar property, maybe it is fed via the soul...The Lord's Soul. What if this artefact was also used to make humans sort of like cattle to dragons, so many possibilities opening up around Crystals!
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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by DoughGuy on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:53 am

    Do we know where the primordial crystal came from? Remember how in Glyphs thread that guy said maybe the crystal is shrinking because its being used up? Maybe Seath is converting the crystal into a special type of soul that basically acts as the elixer of life?


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:55 am

    What if it is also increasing his power? Because that could explain why Seath has such powerful magic. As well I just realized, he curses you. Does this mean that he has devised a way to drain the souls of others, and increase his power from his enemies? This is power so great I would consider it more threatening than the Occult!
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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by DoughGuy on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:57 am

    So when he curses you part of you rsoul crystalllizes into crystals and is trapped outside your body. Seath then harvests these crystals to increase the dwindling mass of the primordial crystal?
    Look at how powerful Logans crystal magics are and he's just using ordinary crystal. If Seath's magic uses the primordial crystal it would be far more powreful.


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:02 am

    What if he's also working towards literally making a catalyst out of a pure soul crystal? He could use it to keep himself alive, protect itself, himself, and defeat any opposing him. I can't imagine even Gwyn standing against Seath, with insane magical potential, while draining the very soul of Gwyn to feed his own magic, as he heals forever in combat. He really was close to immortality it seems. I kind of wish I didn't break that thing...I want to keep it for myself.
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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by cloudyeki on Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:05 am

    Bad Tolvo *hits with a rolled up newspaper*

    I'm loving these theories


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    Re: Magical theory 201

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:06 am

    Hey, nothing's wrong with a little power...And immortality...And scientific research...And kidnapping...And experimentation....AND GODHOOD!

    *Turns to see Skare break his crystal*

    God damnit! Three thousand years down the drain!

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