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    Above 30 faith

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:14 am

    Is there any point in going above 30 faith? I mean, i know that there is Gwyn's lightning bolt and the princess guard miracles, but if i'm not planning on joining those covenants, then there isnt any point, right?


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by bloodpixel on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:16 am

    Well, there is something called scaling...


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:22 am

    If you need weapon scaling then yes, if not then no. I haven't tested Sunlight Blade with 40 faith, but I will, and will post if there is a large difference.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by bloodpixel on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:26 am

    I believe it has somewhere around a 30 something damage difference, if the calculations are correct.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by russiannightmare on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:39 am

    Depends how hard you want your weapons or mircles to hit. Darkmoon talisman is the best talisman but it does not become truely effective until 35 faith or something close to that.
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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by RANT on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:41 am

    if youre using slb youre better off only having 30 faith.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by RANT on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:42 am

    russiannightmare wrote:Depends how hard you want your weapons or mircles to hit. Darkmoon talisman is the best talisman but it does not become truely effective until 35 faith or something close to that.

    canvas talisman is at its strongest at 30 and darkmoon at 40.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by CrackSouls on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:43 am

    50 Faith + Darkmoon Talisman = KABOOOOOOOOOM.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by RANT on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:44 am

    WyrmHero wrote:If you need weapon scaling then yes, if not then no. I haven't tested Sunlight Blade with 40 faith, but I will, and will post if there is a large difference.

    i tested it and there isnt, you either go with 30 or 50 faith, if you go 50 make sure you wear the crown thing or the ring that boosts your miraclesm theyre really helpful since wog or the lightning spears are not that powerful.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by RANT on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:46 am

    CrackSouls wrote:50 Faith + Darkmoon Talisman = KABOOOOOOOOOM.

    for spells yes, not so much for slb though, its a shame. i have a build that has 28 str and 50 faith ad the sunlight spear kicks *** but only with the sotfb ring.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by Imarreteet23 on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:51 am

    Oh yeah, forgot about scaling. Also forgot about Magic adjust. My bad.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by CrackSouls on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:56 am

    RantFromRant wrote:
    CrackSouls wrote:50 Faith + Darkmoon Talisman = KABOOOOOOOOOM.

    for spells yes, not so much for slb though, its a shame. i have a build that has 28 str and 50 faith ad the sunlight spear kicks *** but only with the sotfb ring.

    That's very unfortunate because the Whip build I'm making is for a SLB buff and my faith is already at 34.... Sigh.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by RANT on Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:01 am

    CrackSouls wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:
    CrackSouls wrote:50 Faith + Darkmoon Talisman = KABOOOOOOOOOM.

    for spells yes, not so much for slb though, its a shame. i have a build that has 28 str and 50 faith ad the sunlight spear kicks *** but only with the sotfb ring.

    That's very unfortunate because the Whip build I'm making is for a SLB buff and my faith is already at 34.... Sigh.

    with slb i think the diff betweem 30 and 50 is about 100 maybe more. you can still use the spells though, i love the way sunlight spear looks and its awesome against bosses.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by CrackSouls on Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:02 am

    CrackSouls wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:
    CrackSouls wrote:50 Faith + Darkmoon Talisman = KABOOOOOOOOOM.

    for spells yes, not so much for slb though, its a shame. i have a build that has 28 str and 50 faith ad the sunlight spear kicks *** but only with the sotfb ring.

    That's very unfortunate because the Whip build I'm making is for a SLB buff and my faith is already at 34.... Sigh.

    WAAAAIT. I'm looking at a calc now. 30 Faith + Canvas talisman gives you 172MagAdj, but 50 Faith + Darkmoon Talisman gives you 226 MagAdj. Are you telling me that adjustment makes a 100point difference on Sunlight Blade? Really? If so what a fail I just made on that build...


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by RANT on Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:06 am

    CrackSouls wrote:
    CrackSouls wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:
    CrackSouls wrote:50 Faith + Darkmoon Talisman = KABOOOOOOOOOM.

    for spells yes, not so much for slb though, its a shame. i have a build that has 28 str and 50 faith ad the sunlight spear kicks *** but only with the sotfb ring.

    That's very unfortunate because the Whip build I'm making is for a SLB buff and my faith is already at 34.... Sigh.

    30 faith= 309
    50 faith=406

    i know it sucks but test it and see for yourself.

    WAAAAIT. I'm looking at a calc now. 30 Faith + Canvas talisman gives you 172MagAdj, but 50 Faith + Darkmoon Talisman gives you 226 MagAdj. Are you telling me that adjustment makes a 100point difference on Sunlight Blade? Really? If so what a fail I just made on that build...

    edit; lol at my post


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by CrackSouls on Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:08 am

    :-(


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by Zechk on Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:22 am

    My main is dex/faith with SLB and I went with 30. The extra points in vit and end are just more valuable imo than a bit of extra SLB damage, plus I like the flexibility. Means I'm not totally useless when the buff expires.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:44 am

    ok I tested 40 faith with canvas talisman and my sunlight straight sword. Sunlight blade gives 30 more AR with 190 Mag Adj, it's not worth it. I didn't test WoG nor Lightning spears, so maybe they increase more.


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    Re: Above 30 faith

    Post by chaosrave on Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:03 am

    scaling sucks, just get enough stats to use the skill and put the rest into vit or end which are much more useful than alittle more dmg


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