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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by retro on Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:52 pm

    DxV04 wrote:There are different spawn points of course for invaders whether they are SoVs or Dark Spirits.
    I believe this is incorrect. I made a page detailing all of the invasion spawn locations:
    http://darksouls.wikidot.com/invasion-spawn-locations

    Blue Invaders should only have different spawn points if it's a ring-based invasion (cat covenant ring or darkmoon blade covenant ring), because those have their own locations. While I was unable to test all locations as both Darkwraith and Darkmoon using the Red and Blue Eye orbs, from what I've seen all locations appear to be identical.

    How this relates to Gravelording- the location of your Gravelord soul sign (where you're standing with an active Eye of Death) determines where the invader spawns. If someone where to use a Cracked Red Eye Orb / Red Eye Orb / Blue Eye Orb in the same spot as a Gravelord sign, they'd wind up in the same location.


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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by retro on Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:10 am

    Acidic_Cook wrote:check from page 2 onwards for the pics taken by me and companion Fearandwhiskey.

    It's not easy to tell from the pictures if they're a comprehensive list of all in the area, and some of the locations are difficult for me to recognize. If you're able to answer some of the questions I have about your pics, it'd be greatly appreciated.

    retro wrote:
    A couple starting questions--

    Painted World:
    -Is there one or two BP Bloated Undeads on the annex rooftop (by the Dark Ember)? Between this and this, I would guess that there's two, but I just wanted to double check that it's not one that moved around.
    -Are there 3 BP Bonewheel Skeletons in the main underground area, and a 4th by the bottom of the well ladder? Or are there more?
    -I saw one picture of a BP Bloated Undead near the Xanthoius area. Are there more? Are there BP Hollows (torch or sword) down there too, or just Bloated?

    New Londo Ruins:
    -The wiki currently accounts for 3 BP Darkwraiths based only on video evidence and nothing from this thread. This one is NOT one of those 3, correct? If so, where is this 4th one located exactly? (I really ought to recognize the spot...)
    Are there 3, 4, or more in New Londo Ruins?

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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:25 am

    There are two by the Annex. One is a non-torch user that hangs at the very side of the stairs, another rests by teh Dark Ember with two regular Infected Hollows.

    There is about two to three BP Skeletons in the tunnel, and three in the main room. I do not remember, as it has been two months since then, but I remember that BP Bonewheels in the tunnel were common. There is one BP by the well, one that is the area that is the dead end, past the tunnel that leads towards the hollow with fire surge... and perhaps a third. Can't think of a third, but i remember those two.

    There are two BP Infected at Xanthous, one at each side of the staircase, hiding behind the walls. They are at opposite ends of each other, so they hit from different directions after the staircase to Xanthous Spawn Trigger.

    There is one Darkwraith Phantom by the Elevator that is NOT where the water lever is... guarded by about 6 ghosts at top, with him at the bottom. There is a BP Darkwraith by the Darkwraith near the well that holds 6 cracked orbs. One guards the chest of the Very Large Ember, one is by the bridge that leads to the fog gate, towards the Abyss... I remember there being more, and I remember countering around five or six. Again, it has been awhile, and they usually disappear on me before I check the whole area in and out. There is a good amount, and I remember one Darkwraith that drops from the second floor of the structure that holds the Very Large Ember, but it was not the one guarding the Ember, as it was still there when we got there. The Darkwraiths usually come before sighted at times, especially the BPs.

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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:26 am

    -The rest of the areas require more searching and evidence: The Depths, Blighttown, The Duke's Archives, Crystal Cave, The Catacombs, Tomb of the Giants, Sen's Fortress, Demon Ruins, Lost Izalith, and The Painted World of Ariamis...

    As for that, ask away for information, I have a clearer rememberance in those, as many of those I did after New Londo and Painted World.
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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by retro on Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:35 am

    You're awesome, thanks!

    For Sen's Fortress, I have these listed based on video evidence:
    1 BP Serpent Mage: Outside the Crestfallen Merchant room, by the broken walkway jump
    2 BP Serpent Soldiers: Bottom of Crestfallen Merchant tower, before regular Serpent Mage protecting the Cage Key
    1 BP Serpent Soldier: End of pendulum axe bridge, with the several axes closely in a row (requires running)
    1 BP Serpent Soldier: Beginning of level, before the first bridge

    That seems to leave out the following:
    1 BP Serpent Mage by Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring Photo
    1 or 2 BP Serpent Soldiers 'to the right' at the end of the first bridge. (1 only seen in above photo, but it was said that there are two there but one sometimes falls into the tar pit?)
    And lastly, who/ where is this guy? Do I already have that one accounted for? I'm guessing that might be the first one in the level...

    Any others I missed in Sen's? That'll be all for tonight. I'll have some more questions about other areas in the next day or two. Gonna take a break to actually play the game. big grin

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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:43 am

    2 Serpent Warriors are by the first bridge, at the Very beginning of the bridge, opposite from you when you enter from short staircase form main gateway.

    1 BP Serpent Warrior at the end of the bridge, to the right of you; When you go left, you go to the second bridge, but to the right, the BP serpent is there.

    Remember the corpse that has hush and Black Sorcerer Clothes? BP Serpent Mage is there.

    The BP Serpent at the end of the bridge you are talking about is the Bridge after the Ball Lever area.

    When you go threw the first Fog Gate, where the Serpent Warrior is after the second Dart Trap encountered; The Black Serpent, instead of your left, is to your right.

    Yes, there is a BP mage before Merchant and Two Black Phantom Warriors with the regular Serpent Mage, guarding the Cage Key.

    There is one BP Serpent Mage where the Slumbering Ring is, and I had a picture of it, although optical illusions make it seem as if it is on the second bridge... it is not.

    That is what I remember from my encounter, and I met them about three different playthroughs, and a LOT of restarting after death. Worse BP area ever, especially at NG+ and higher.

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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by retro on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:50 am

    Excellent.

    The Depths:
    -Is the exact number of BP Hollows (Torch) in the first area known? Based on the pictures I saw, I would guess that there's 3:
    One at the bottom of the first steps, another one or two in the area with all the tables (guessing those are the same one), and another in the water area at the bottom.

    -Is the starting location of the BP Butcher known? Wondering if he starts there or dropped down from somewhere...

    -Is the location and number of rats known? Based on these pictures, it seems that there are 5-6 known BP rats:
    Two around the corner from the first large group of rats (near the popular invasion spawnpoint)? One by the sewer tunnel entrance near the channeler, and two to three on the bottom floor outside the blighttown entrance?

    Have any BP Slimes or Basilisks been seen?

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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:08 am

    All of the BP Hollows are the torch men; One resides by the nameless soldier soul, where if you look left you will see the butcher that guards the pyromancer's prison. Going down the second set of stairs towards the large area of hollows with benches, a BP torchman is straight ahead of you. One resides in the pool with the Dogs, and there is a fourth one if I remember correctly... he is at the opposite end of the long hallway with slimes and the door to bonfire, opposite end of the hall AWAY from the bonfire door.

    The BP Butcher is found directly at the door that leads towards the slime and torch area, before the Bonfire Room and Rat areas are accessed; When going down the second set of stairs to the hollows and bench room, looking right and down will see the BP guarding the door.

    There are two BP rats right after the first box rat trap, in front of the other rat that usually drops down from the small ledge. one BP rat is seen with the rats and the channeler... remember the shortcut drop that leads on the balcony that is over top thee giant rat with the battle axe in its eye? Two BP rats are up there, one each guarding a stone support for the sewer bridge to your left, as soon as you drop. Three BP rats I think are in the large area guarding both the Zena Merchant and the small hall leading towards the Gaping Area.

    There are no Slime or Basilisk BPs, sadly; Only the hollowed men and woman (butchers are female, apparently... all of them), as well as the rats.

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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:29 pm

    I did ALL areas that can been infected by gravelord; Valley of drakes, Great Hollow, Asylum, and Ash Lake are unavailable to Gravelord at, due to lack of phantom interaction in general. Since you come at off times from mine, I'll jsut answer the other areas for you to see. Whether you use this info in either wiki or such, it doesn't matter; The info is there, and people who take the time to do it can add it whenever if you don't. So, this will be used to help explain areas you got no info on

    First, Dukes:


    There are not much Black Phantoms compared to other areas, however the enemies that are Black Phantoms are a treat. There are three BP channelers, three BP crystal golems, and two BP flawed maidens.

    One channeler is in the same area as the first channeler you find AFTER you leave the prison area, which from looking at the normal channeler the other is at the opposite end of the balcony hall, at the turnable staircase that the player can only access at the start. One is at teh same area as the Greta Magic Shield, except one level down, same balcony hall that leads to the ladder down towards where the mimic and logan lay; With teh crystal hollow with the bow protecting the ladder, a BP channeler is also there, although instead of looking straight at the doorway, is to the left when entering threw, or is behind the ladder going up or down it, at the same height level as the crystal bowman.

    The failed medusas of the prison are with the other medusas, however threw the large gate to their cage, a BP is at each side of the gate, out of view from long range.

    A BP Crystal Golem is seen when you go down the ladder to the crystal forest, going straightl and turning left around the corner to see a normal crystal golem; the BP is right beside it. Two others reside within the forest, close to the crystalline armour corpse

    That is it for the Archives, nothing more nothing less. Looked across the map for some BPs, but none were found.

    Lost Izalith:


    The only BPs in the area, are the Chaos Eaters that are in the SAME area as the Chaos Eaters that challenge and trap the onion knight; There are three in the sewage area with the other five chaos eaters down below. No stone demon BPs, no Dragon legs BPs. Note, that trying to Gravelord in the Area is the MOST troubling out of all of the areas in the game, or at least it was for me and my companion.

    Demon Ruins:


    There are only BP Capra Demons in the world, and nothing else; If I remember correctly, there are five of them, with two BP Capra Demons with the other Capras, and three on the Large Staircase with the Stone Demons. BPs do not reach past to the Taurus Demons and the Rock grubs that guard the embers.

    The Catacombs:


    Ugh... I will have to remember from beginning to end, and I don't know If I will get them all, but I am sure I will get at least most. Has been a while, and only a one time thing for me.

    When you open the First Necromancer Door, there are two Skeleton BPs that introduce themselves after going threw the narrow natural fissure towards the main area of the Catacombs; One was a scimitar, one was a Falcoin.

    A Scimitar and a Falcoin Skeleton are guarding the pathway that protects the Non-Fog Gate end of the Second Bridge, as well as the Exit from the Area that holds the secret passage to the Skeletal Blacksmith, as well as the hidden Bonfire.

    A Falcoin Skeleton is guarding the Lever that opens the Second Necromancer Door, and there is a Scimitar BP that is close to where the Lutrece Pole Arm (if I remember correctly)

    There are Two BP Skeletons to the left of you when you go threw the narrow passageway to the titanite Demon, the Last Necromancer, the Bonewheels, and the Black Knight; Before the Ladder to the two skeletons area, they are to your left when you go threw the narrow Hallway to the Dark Area. Beware.

    Last, but not least, there are two BP Bonewheels at the end close to the Leeroy Spawn, with the other Bonewheels. No other form of BPs exist, except for skeletons and bonewheels.

    Tomb of Giants; Blarg:


    A Skeletal Giant resides by the Ladder that leads up towards the other normal Skeletal Giants, as well as the Eye of Death; By the Archer and Warrior that are not BPs.

    There are two Skeletal Giants that are in the Large Divine Ember area, along with the other Skeletal Giants protecting it... although you can see them more clearly.

    One Skeletal Giant BP is with the Two Giant Dogmen and the Archer, after the first Fog Gate. Before that, a BP Skeletal Dogman is with the first Dogman you see in the Tombs.

    Past the LAST BP Skeletal Giant, there are Two BP Dogmen as well, that are there.

    WARNING: The BP Dogmen will immediately chase after you on sight, unlike the other Dogmen in the Tomb of Giants.

    Anor Londo:


    There are only Three BP Sentinels in the Game, with one guarding the statues of Ornstein and Smough (individually guarding with two normals each, making two total in area), A third Sentinel Guards the Giant Door that is locked from the other side by a Gate Lever.

    Two Silver Knight Swordsmen Guard the Silver Knight Archer that is on the Balcony; Same ground level as the two Mimics with Coins. A Black Phantom Spearman is Right in front of the end of the first spiral staircase usable. With the Silver Knight Swordsman at the Bottom of the Staircase Guarding it, a BP is with him at the end of the back hall with the two doors, leading to Havel/Mimic and Tow Silver Spearmen.

    Two BP Spearmen Protect a Silver Knight Archer that guards the Top of the Second Spiral Staircase; At the Bottom of the Staircase, a BP Silver Knight Swordsmen is at top of the Staircase that the player first uses to Access the Great Hallway, the openable end of the Large Gate.

    Blighttown:


    A BP Ghoul is first met after meeting the three Barbarians near the Depths Entrance/Exit Way.

    A BP Ghoul is at the same level as the Parasitic Creature Guarding Power Within, by the Ladder that is the only access down from the Depths to the Parasite, Large Pit with the Whip, and the Ladders to Blowdart Snipers.

    Two BP Ghouls guard with a barbarian and ghoul down to where the whip area is, with the first fog gate; with the Sniper Blowdart Man at top, there is a BP Ghoul nearby (If I remember correctly). There are Three BP Barbarians that are in the Swamp, close two the Leeches alone; Two BP Barbarians are with the Rock Throwers near the Chaos Witch's Domain

    If you want information of the KNOWN areas, I can do that too. Just have to ask.

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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:03 pm

    Added some more information, too. Just to note, there are NO BPs in the Crystal Caves. We checked about two to three times, with no success.
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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by retro on Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:27 am

    Awesome, thanks again for all the info and hard work! This should be all I need. cheers
    This will help with providing the most clear, up to date list of black phantoms in the game yet.

    If anyone is wondering why I'm updating the wikidot wiki first, it was pretty much just an arbitrary decision. When I feel like I've made all the important updates I've wanted to that wiki, I'll make sure the wikispaces wiki also gets the same treatment.
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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by retro on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:16 am

    One question about the Catacombs:

    Where is this guy?


    At first I thought you might've had two pics of the Skeleton by the Lucerne, but looking more closely it seems to be two different spots.

    It looks to me like it might be a Scimitar BP at the end of the first rotating bridge (next to the where the 2nd necromancer would be). It's the only spot like with steps and a background like that, at least that I could find.

    And one last question on one thing I think I might've missed:



    Is that a fire-throwing Bloated Undead by the well ladder?

    After that, I should be done for now!

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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:43 pm

    The second picture of the bloated infeceted is one of the two BP bloated men that are after the staircase of Xanthous.

    Sorry, the skeleton is not Lutrece, it is after second bridge. Sorry, it has been awhile since I have done it, forgive me for my error. The skeleton does protect the secret cave to the crystal lizards. I remember there being only one skeleton. The rest is right, however.

    I got pictures of ALL of the BP skeleton and bonewheel areas. I just forgot where THAT one in particular is... and also, there is a picture of one BP in the Dark Room leading to titanite and to the last necromancer, however only one is seen due to technical difficulties of capturing both. Still, there is two BP skeletons there.
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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by DxV04 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:00 pm

    Acidic, There are no BPs in Queelags domain right? If so I will replace queelags domain with Lost Izalith.

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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:08 pm

    Yes, none In the domain
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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by DxV04 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:28 pm

    Keyz Kage wrote:This video is not made by me, but.. I was just looking at some Dark Souls videos and I found this one with an invader who invades someones world with is gravelorded in Anor Londo. And when stuff happens.. xD

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5OMKBfHvXs

    Anyways, I'm teribly sorry if this has already been found or something. Please show mercy all mighty gravelords for the everlasting noob.

    Thanks for the video!! sorry for the late late late reply.
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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by swordiris on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:38 am

    My little brother wants to be a gravelord.

    He has a question.

    Is there anyway for gravelords to get indicted?


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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:11 am

    Only of they get indicted as a red phantom. Otherwise, no.
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    Post by ZikoLogiKa NL on Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:07 am



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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:44 pm

    Almost Every Gravelord does the forest... Why not add some variety?
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    Post by ZikoLogiKa NL on Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:47 pm

    Oh Im not every GraveLord , I hang out everywhere,

    it's just that I only had that pic of 3 GLs in the same spot.,

    just wanted to share some different or funny pictures , rather then pictures of BPs that allready exist in this catalogus.

    The forest bonfire is too small of an arena if you ask me , stone giants area is cool though


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    Re: Gravelord Black Phantom Catalog AKA Cursebook

    Post by User on Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:50 pm

    We need more Gravelords with Cracked Orbs; Bring as much Red pain as possible.
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    Post by ZikoLogiKa NL on Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:56 pm

    Exactly.,

    all they have to do is kill Sif & the Four Kings for a constant flow of cracked red's

    The color red is associated with lust, passion, love, beauty, and danger., certain shades of red are used to symbolize anger or aggression.

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    Post by DxV04 on Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:37 am

    ZikoLogiKa NL wrote:

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