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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:24 pm

    First off sorry if this post already exists. I am at the point where im going to make my finale build for pvp. I love this game but after 800+hrs im getting a little tired of lordran and will most likely just be playing a bit here and there and of course attending FC.

    I think i have finally decided what build works best for me and im fine tuning it. Its pretty plain jane but here it is, just a common 16str/14dex vit/end build. the main issue i had was making it so i could switch out certain weapons and rings without throwing off my equip weight.

    what are your favorite pvp builds?

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    Post by WyrmHero Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:32 pm

    LOL 88 Vit. My favorite are the str/dex/int/faith hybrids and cosplays.
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:50 pm

    i find elemental weapons to be the most reliable so vit/end builds are the way to go. plus with all the ghost dmg and lag dmg that occurs in pvp having tons of vit is always a good thing. Im not one of those try hard people,if i was this build would be full giants,mask of family,and rapier with hornets.

    I just dont ever really use the spells even with my pure int build. The only spells i use are buffs and i find them to be unreliable,except maybe in FC where you know the person will let you buff. Also i never found str and dex to be worth it unless you are using buffs, otherwise elemental is better. I have tryed many variations of this build but this is pretty much the final product.
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    Post by Railage Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:18 pm

    My Build

    SL 120

    Vitality - 45
    Attunement - 12
    Endurance - 30
    Strength - 16
    Dexterity - 40
    Resistance (lol) - 12
    Intelligence - 40
    Faith - 8

    I'll usually use CMW on my Ricards Rapier, with Grass Crest Shield or a Blood Shield.

    My armor set up usually consist of:

    Silver Knight Helm
    Witch Cloak
    Witch Gloves
    Havel Legs

    or I'll just use Dragon Body.
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    Post by WyrmHero Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:22 pm

    Well elementals have to go thru 2 defenses while a normal goes to physical def only, so a 500 AR normal will do more damage than a 500 AR lightning.
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:48 pm

    The build I'm PvPing right now is by far my favorite.
    Warrior
    SL 120
    Vit: 45
    Att: *
    End: 40
    Str: 40
    Dex: 40
    Res: *
    Int: *
    Faith: *
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    Black Iron Helmet
    Armor of the Sun
    Havel's Leggings
    Havel's Gauntlets

    LH1: Target
    LH2: empty
    RH1: Estoc +15 (or crystal +5)
    RH2: GScythe +15 (or crystal +5)

    This build hits hard. Hardest hitting non buffed build. Plus, you can use any weapon you want.
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    Post by RANT Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:18 pm

    my fave build is my paladin leeroy build, i can use all str weapons which i like cause i keep trying new weapons every time in a while, i've been using the golem axe recently and it cracks me up every time i knowck someone on their *** with the special attack, it's very simple but really strong.

    vit:40
    att:14
    end:41
    str:50
    fai:30

    the rest is base.
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:55 pm

    yea im still iffy on this being my final build. i might test out my str build a little more and see if i think the dmg is worth it, also i think when it comes to most dex weapons going elemental is better while ive noticed the str weapons do have so much physical dmg that it does out do elemental.

    I was thinking of maybe replacing the claymore with a large club and either going 40str or making it elemental. also i make multiple versions of weapons, for instance i have a fire +10 bss also i just cant put it on that build maker.
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    Post by RANT Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:59 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:yea im still iffy on this being my final build. i might test out my str build a little more and see if i think the dmg is worth it, also i think when it comes to most dex weapons going elemental is better while ive noticed the str weapons do have so much physical dmg that it does out do elemental.

    I was thinking of maybe replacing the claymore with a large club and either going 40str or making it elemental. also i make multiple versions of weapons, for instance i have a fire +10 bss also i just cant put it on that build maker.

    i love the larget club, if youre gonna have 40 str it's better tomake it +15 it will deal mre damage than an elemental specially if it's an sl 120 build, most people have high res to everything at that sl. why not make it 40str 30 faith instead of making the most boring build in the game?
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    Post by JoocyJ003 Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:07 pm

    FruitPunchNinja even though the elemental numbers are higher, when u test in pvp, with the correct stats, the +15 significantly outdamage the elemental version..

    For example i tested an Uchigatana +15 vs a Chaos uchi +5 vs Lightning +5

    The players defenses were pretty standard for lvl 120. 400 phys defense 430 slash 300 magic 350 flame 290 lightning

    The uchi +15 at 40 dex doee 420 AR but against him did 240

    The Chaos +5 ar was 506?(approximately) but only did 204

    Lighning +5 did roughly 202

    So +15s are worth the stats imo.

    Heres one of my favorite 120 dex builds

    Vit - 42

    Att-14

    End- 25

    Str - 14

    Dex - 40

    Res - 11

    Int - 8

    Faith - 48
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:15 pm

    Joocy's right. I did a similar test (not very thorough though) on my weapons. +15 beat elemental. The one thing I would like to test is criticals. It would be interesting to see if elemental defense applies to critical damage.
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    Post by JoocyJ003 Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:18 pm

    Yeah actually Reim ive tested the elementals too and most of the elementals will beat +15 on backstabs, but not normal R1 or R2 hits. I heard it has something to do with the both the physical and elemental damage bothh getting multiplied by critical modifier. But... prob just rumors. Of course a buffed +15 will will beat an elemental bs.
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:21 pm

    That's what I thought. The critical damage modifiers are really confusing.
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    Post by bloodpixel Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:22 pm

    Mine
    SL:120
    Vit:50
    End:37
    Str.base
    Dex:40
    Res:base
    int:base
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    Post by JoocyJ003 Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:26 pm

    Oh yeah Reim heres somethin you might appreciate.

    There is one dex weapon i tested that will beat the critical damage of its elemental counterpart.

    Crystal rapier


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    Post by reim0027 Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:26 pm

    What's your attunement?
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:28 pm

    i agree with you guys and i am going to tweek it a bit and lower the vit. I dont think i will put any points into faith or int though. this is a tuff one and its most likely the last thing i will do to this build. I am going to put the str to 40 meaning my vit will go down to 64. i was thinking do that and use a +15 claymore along with my collection of maxed out elemental bss's, OR bring my vit down to 60 and make my dex 18 and use the black knight sword.....its a tuff one cause while the bks hits harder then claymore the claymores moveset is more fit for pvp.
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:30 pm

    reim0027 wrote:What's your attunement?

    either 12 or 14 not sure yet. its really not important since its just for great combustion and powerwithin(for when im feeling brave)
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:32 pm

    Why all that faith if you aren't going to buff or cast miracles?

    Joocy - good to know, since I use my crystals before my +15. Does that apply to estocs and BKs too?
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:34 pm

    what you mean reim my faith is at 8? i think you were lookin at someones elses build
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:36 pm

    HAHA! You're right. I was looking at blood's. Prostration
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:41 pm

    wow i really cant pick between the claymore and bks..... claymore does 420dmg while the bks does 500dmg. the stat difference doesnt really matter but that dmg difference is noteable. i have to admit i really wish the bks had a more practical R2 moveset.


    EDIT: sorry im focusing so much on my build. i do really want too hear some other peoples favorite builds. builds are kinda what keeps me interested in dks these days.
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    Post by JoocyJ003 Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:52 pm

    Yeah the Claymores C C scaling takes a while to kick in.

    Claymore +15 at 40 dex 14 str will do 439 AR

    However at 40 dex 36 str it will do 531 AR and be on par with the Man Serpent Greatsword.

    If you want my advice id say that 420 AR with no buff isnt worth it. You could test an elemental claymore vs the +15 and see how much of a difference there really is. Or you could just go with the man serpent g sword.

    Edit: Black Knight Sword is prob ur best bet.
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:26 pm

    yea i think im going to go with the bks since i will mostly use it as backup to stunlock/stagger. i wish the claymore scaled B with str and C or D with dex would be the best greatsword lol. since im not using buffs i think bks is the way to go. thanks for the advice everyone.heres the final product

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=277185449


    ***! i just realized the toon i was going to implement this build on has its vit at 63 already, thats not a major deal but damn thats going to drive my ocd crazy. i might have to make it from scratch lol.


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    Post by reim0027 Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:30 pm

    Thanks for the secrets of your build. No, I know what you've got next time we're dueling. twisted

    And, I really don't want to get hit with Fire Tempest when you've got PW activated. Ouch!

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