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    Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by SATLOS on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:11 pm

    Ran up against a wall called "4 Kings" on my low-level mage playthrough, so I was hanging around in Blighttown, co-opping Queelag and using some cracked red-eye orbs while levelling up my pyro glove, and during a particular invasion, I got the message:

    "By the power of the Lordvessel, you may now warp between bonfires"

    The invasion was then terminated... Since I already had the Lordvessel, I found this odd.

    I kept co-opping and noticed that Queelag wasn't going down as easily... I'm pretty sure I was pushed into NG+!!

    Now the 4 Kings seem even MORE of a roadblock, and since most of the other bosses are already defeated, I can't see myself gaining enough souls for 40 levels anytime soon...

    I'm pretty sure I'm hooped unless I co-op more, but will that eventually push me into NG++?
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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by SATLOS on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:21 pm

    Does anyone know the conditions required for this auto-NG bump to occur?
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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by Akatik on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:24 pm

    I don't know how or why this happens, but this is not the first time I've seen it.


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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by Deadmeat95 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:28 pm

    I've gotten that same message b4 when I alrdy had the lordvessle though I do not recall the game getting harder for me.


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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by SATLOS on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:36 pm

    I'm basing the "getting harder" part on the fact that Queelag would normally take about 5 of my Great Heavy Soul Spears (Oolocile catalyst) to go down... I'd always let the host finish it off after that.

    Now when I co-op Queelag, it takes about 10-12 Great Heavy Soul Spears WHILE the host/Mildred are wailing on her...
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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by k0rruptid on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:44 pm

    some people have noted similar experiences, i have seen the same message but haven't noticed anything get harder.


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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by Scudman_Slayer on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:47 pm

    uuuhbb...
    bosses...get more health depending on how many players there is if you go solo they're easier if you go co-op they survive a lot more


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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by Carphil on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:47 pm

    Wow man this should go to the glitch page! Pushed to NG+ like this would suck, but you know, someone in NG+ is able to summon you even if you are in NG. So you can join the host worlds in NG+ so don't worry, I think you are fine


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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by sen545331 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:48 pm

    don't forget that as a phantom, the host can be in any "+" game and yours normally wouldn't change.

    I've killed many an O&S in NG+ while in NG, just need to be in the level range of the host, that's all, and some people do the game at low levels
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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by meridam99 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:27 pm

    SATLOS wrote:I'm basing the "getting harder" part on the fact that Queelag would normally take about 5 of my Great Heavy Soul Spears (Oolocile catalyst) to go down... I'd always let the host finish it off after that.

    Now when I co-op Queelag, it takes about 10-12 Great Heavy Soul Spears WHILE the host/Mildred are wailing on her...

    If you are summoned into someone else's world to help them, it is quite possible they are on NG+


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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by SATLOS on Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:34 pm

    Thanks for the input, guys... You may be right.

    I seem to remember the host had lightning weapons and some decent armour when Queelag was tougher... Perhaps he was the one in NG+.

    That makes me rest a bit easier... Still hoping to beat the 4 KINGS at level 30 to get into DW. It's a bit hard finding decent phantoms at that level, though... New Londo is a ghost town in the 30s...
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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by meridam99 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:39 pm

    SATLOS wrote:Thanks for the input, guys... You may be right.

    I seem to remember the host had lightning weapons and some decent armour when Queelag was tougher... Perhaps he was the one in NG+.

    That makes me rest a bit easier... Still hoping to beat the 4 KINGS at level 30 to get into DW. It's a bit hard finding decent phantoms at that level, though... New Londo is a ghost town in the 30s...

    PS3 or Xbox? I have a SL 42 on PS3 that I could help you with.
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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by SATLOS on Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:38 pm

    I'm on PS3... What's your gamertag?

    Also... Are we in the same range (+/- considered)? I'm trying to stay at current level in order to help a co-worker who's new at the game.
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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by meridam99 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:40 pm

    Same as my username. We can Co-Op 10 +10% level, so if you are 32, you can Co-Op with me up to level 45.


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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by SATLOS on Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:20 pm

    Nice--I'll add you when I get home tonight.

    What time zone are you in?
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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by meridam99 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:33 pm

    SATLOS wrote:Nice--I'll add you when I get home tonight.

    What time zone are you in?

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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by BLA1NE on Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:21 pm

    Don't worry! I've seen that message many times. It happens when you disconnect from a host for some reason.

    Also, like others have said, when you co-op you can join someone's world where they are in NG+, but it won't affect your own world when you get back.


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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by SATLOS on Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:53 pm

    Oh ***, now BLA1NE knows I'll be lurking around New Londo tonight looking for a summon.

    GREAT! JUST GREAT!

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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by BLA1NE on Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:56 pm

    lol don't worry, I'm taking a break for a few days!

    Just out of curiosity, what SL are you? Taking a break, I swear...


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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by SATLOS on Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:58 pm

    SL 30...

    I've sometimes seen phantoms in that range, but they inevitably run straight up to the kings and get one/two shotted. The one time I had a decent phantom (in full DW armor BTW), we managed to get them down to about 3-4 hits left, but we got swarmed and I was out of estus.

    I'm kinda thinking of trying to do it hollow myself in full havels now that I have the pyro glove fully upgraded... It's cheezy, but it may work.

    My low VIT is the only issue, and the fact that I can't wear the Dragoncrest ring to boost my soul arrows (fucking abyss).
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    Re: Pushed into NG+!!?

    Post by BLA1NE on Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:08 am

    Oh well now that you put it that way you could summon me! I've helped people beat the 4 Kings with my SL30 absolutely no problem before. I even put on Havel's to tank most of the damage so you don't have to!

    Let me know if you need help on any boss at that level.


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