Idea: Ring of Royalty

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    Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Wade_Wilson on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:44 pm

    Since people are so vocal about backstabs, I had an idea about something that could be done to appease them. I thought of a "Ring of Royalty" which would "help prevent lethal assasinations (aka backstabs). I thought about how this could anti-backstabs could be implemented into the game without pissing off the majority of the community, and I decided that a ring which reduced backstab damage by 40% would be a good solution. The "ring of royalty" idea was just me trying to make it fit with dark souls theme.
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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Yarxov on Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:31 pm

    Seems like a good idea, but what are the chances From will listen or act on it?


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:07 pm

    Hmm... I don't see any problems with that. Good idea!


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Carphil on Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:12 pm

    +1 that would be fantastic to have added


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Yarxov on Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:13 pm

    Where would you get the ring?


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Carphil on Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:14 pm

    Gwynevere's room? Gwyn tomb chest?


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:23 pm

    Anre of Astora! If you know his dying words, you'll get what I mean. Plus with other speculation. Maybe Vamos as well.
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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Rin on Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:24 pm

    well a ring like that should be quite hard to get i think it should be in a place like the grate hollow or given as an npc event item


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by lextune on Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:34 pm

    It is a good trade off, you sacrifice the ring slot for protection.

    Still think that the shield on your back not only makes the most sense, but solves the "problem" most eloquently.

    I would love to see everyone 2-handing their weapon.


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Serious_Much on Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:05 pm

    Thing is then in PvP EVERYONE would 2H their weapon, no dual wielding or offhand weapons anymore...

    and you'd have the guys who turtle abuse the mechanic like thatswitching to 2H everytime their opponent runs of moves towards their back...

    I personally prefer the ring idea, in exact terms it's the opposite of hornets ring... would this mean that ripostes would also be affected? After all it fits with the assassination attempt theme as many in history have been tried to people trusted be the victim.


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Yarxov on Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:12 pm

    The only downside about this is that the best defense against griefers is now gone.
    ie I was fighting a griefer with a Claymore +4 and 16 str/Dex I did 39 damage per hit, when I should have been doing ~200. I had to BS him to death, only doing 200 per. If he had the ring on I could only have BS'ed him for 80. I ran out of Estus quickly and he healed more than I.

    It IS a good idea, but very risky.


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:15 pm

    Maybe it could be found... in that unused space behind the statue in the Undead Parish church! silly I just really want there to be something there. sad

    lextune wrote:Still think that the shield on your back not only makes the most sense, but solves the "problem" most eloquently.

    I would love to see everyone 2-handing their weapon.
    No. I've always hated that suggestion. A shield on your back, which consumes no stamina, shouldn't get you an always active protection. Even a shield at ready in your offhand doesn't provide protection when it's not active, but suddenly it would because it's on your back, and at no cost? A ring would at least consume a precious ring slot.


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:17 pm

    Yarxov wrote:The only downside about this is that the best defense against griefers is now gone.
    ie I was fighting a griefer with a Claymore +4 and 16 str/Dex I did 39 damage per hit, when I should have been doing ~200. I had to BS him to death, only doing 200 per. If he had the ring on I could only have BS'ed him for 80. I ran out of Estus quickly and he healed more than I.

    It IS a good idea, but very risky.
    Yeah, but since it would take up a slot, they'd have to sacrifice somewhere. Less armor, probably, which means you wouldn't be able to rely on backstabs as effectively, but you'd be doing more damage on every hit. Chain-bsing would still be a viable safe tactic to take out griefers, if would just take more bses. And it doesn't protect them from combustion, my favorite anti-griefer tool for underpowered characters. BS them to get them on the ground, hit them with a few combustions, then repeat.


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Yarxov on Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:23 pm

    He had DWGR, the 'Royal Ring' is far more valuable to a griefer since he could tank us (he took 2 hits from a claymore before staggering.) and with 50% roll he would still be devastating to new players.


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:34 pm

    To new players, yes, for sure... But they're doomed either way! To experienced players, though, if he tries a roll it's insta-backstab. If he stands there and tanks, well, that's the same with or without DWGR anyways.


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:51 pm

    i'd say make it only avaliable in ng+ in some godawful hard to reach place. like in totg behind a new hidden wall that leads to the giant dog kennels now filled with skllie dogs.


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:57 pm

    Oh I have an idea: it would be in an area that requires multiple keys, each of which are found in areas you can only access by beating the Taurus Demon, Gaping Dragon, Bell Gargoyles, and Queelag. That way, anyone who has the ring can not invade in the first areas of the game.

    Damn... just thought about BB glitchers.


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    Re: Idea: Ring of Royalty

    Post by Rin on Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:00 pm

    lol dont worry, from as a small company might have a lot to do with the next title, possible dlc and drs for pc but they should fix the bb glitch soon


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