Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

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    Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by Wade_Wilson on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:15 pm

    Since everyone here seems to be making a strength build, I thought I might as well hop on the bandwagon. However, I've never made a strength build before: all of my characters have high strength and dexterity, but low magic and faith (in the first playthrough). Between magic and faith, which is better for a strength build, and how should I allocate stats accordingly?
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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:17 pm

    I never tried a Str/Int build. I could try make one, but without dex, the spell casting speed will not be as fast as having high dex.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:19 pm

    use msgs,dmg and the clubs. heres my paladin leeroy build;
    vit:40
    att:14
    end:40
    str:50
    fai:30

    you only need 40 str, no more unless you wanna one hand a certain weapon like i did with the grant. also for faith, its either 30 or 50, no in between.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:21 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:I never tried a Str/Int build. I could try make one, but without dex, the spell casting speed will not be as fast as having high dex.

    yo dont need any dex(i only have 8 in all my builds, some have 10) since you will be doing all your damage with your weapon, even when not buffed.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:22 pm

    you caould also have 27str and 50 faith. 27 equals 40 str when you two hand your weapon.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by Wade_Wilson on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:24 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:use msgs,dmg and the clubs. heres my paladin leeroy build;
    vit:40
    att:14
    end:40
    str:50
    fai:30

    you only need 40 str, no more unless you wanna one hand a certain weapon like i did with the grant. also for faith, its either 30 or 50, no in between.

    Out of curiosity, what is the damage difference between a sunlight blade buff at 30 faith and a sunlight blade at 50 faith, assuming Im using the darkmoon talisman?
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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:26 pm

    Damn now you got me thinking about a powerful Demon Great Axe buffed with CMW....


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:27 pm

    it scales from your talisman times 1.8. im not on dark souls right now and i dont remember the exact number.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by User on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:28 pm

    well, I can say that a sunlight blade with 50 gives ya over 400 damage worth of lightning damage if you use ivory or sunlight talisman. Hope that helps you, as I only got my crystal magic weapon to about 150 or so... course I did use demon catalyst, I had 50 int.
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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:29 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Damn now you got me thinking about a powerful Demon Great Axe buffed with CMW....

    cracksouls did an "evil" version of my build and it was awesome, DGM+CMW looks sick, i was jealous. i wanna make one, i tried to come up with something but i ended up with an exact copy of his lol.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:33 pm

    yeah, it's better to stick with 30 fai cause, at 30 with canvas talisman you get 311.4.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:35 pm

    wtf? damn i guess i'll stick with my 50str, 30fai build.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:42 pm

    Ok I did some research and found that @ 30 Faith the Canvas Talisman (the best at this point) has 172 Mag Adjust. The Darkmoon Talisman has 221 Mag Adj @ 50 Faith. This means a 49 Mag Adj difference, that I don't know if it's worth it. I will test it with the Gwyn's Firstborn I'll make @ 30, @ 40, and @ 50 faith, as he is supposed to use Sunlight Blade anyway.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by Baal-Avatar on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:43 pm

    This is funny that we are all doing similar builds. I have a Faith/Strength build that I just completed. All I am doing now is getting my weapons together. I am trying to decide on a faster weapon or a more powerful weapon.

    Rant, it is interesting to see your strength builds as compared to mine. It looks like the big difference is that you take strength a little higher than I do. Here are what my stats look like at SL 120:


    Vit 40
    Att 14
    End 48
    Str 30
    Dex 10
    Res 12
    Int 8
    Fai 40
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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:58 pm

    it looks good baal but like a said before you should either go with either 30 or 50 faith, no in between because the canvas talisman is at its strongest at 30 then it starts getting diminishing returns, the same with dm talisman at at 50 faith. im gonna make a new one soon, this is how it's gonna look like, its almost the same as yours.

    class: cleric
    vit:40
    att:16
    end:50
    str:40
    fai:30

    the rest is base and im not sure wether to go with 50 end for better armor or 50 vit.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:07 pm

    You guys are spending too much points on endurance silly


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:11 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:You guys are spending too much points on endurance silly

    str builds are the only one tha really need the 40 end specialy if you two hand your weapon, with 40 end you have room to dodgeonce and attack twice.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:13 pm

    Yeah when I make my Paladin build I equip Havel's ring if going for heavy armor too.


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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by Baal-Avatar on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:29 pm

    The higher endurance works for me with my typical armor set-up and with the Demon Spear in the off hand. I like wearing the ROFAP for the boosts. This is especially true when trying to use the Demon Great Machete which weighs 18 pounds to begin with.

    Rant: I agree completely about the diminishing returns from taking faith to 40, but there are also diminishing returns with taking strength higher.

    WyrmHero: I used to think the same thing, but the extra endurance does help if you want poise and large weapons. But of course, everyone has what works best for them.
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    Re: Strength hybrid build: what to choose?

    Post by RANT on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:38 pm

    Baal-Avatar wrote:The higher endurance works for me with my typical armor set-up and with the Demon Spear in the off hand. I like wearing the ROFAP for the boosts. This is especially true when trying to use the Demon Great Machete which weighs 18 pounds to begin with.

    Rant: I agree completely about the diminishing returns from taking faith to 40, but there are also diminishing returns with taking strength higher.

    WyrmHero: I used to think the same thing, but the extra endurance does help if you want poise and large weapons. But of course, everyone has what works best for them.

    i agree but i like beign able to one hand the DGM so i always get my str up to 40, but i went up to 50 because i wanted to one hand the grant for the rolling r1 attack which was a big disappointment beacause it's not tha strong, the large club does better damage even without a buff. the one im making might be my number one build but i wont be able to one hand some of the weapons i like using just for fun like the DGH and grant of course.


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