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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by berkut on Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:15 am

    Will do, I suspect that the gargoyle Halberd is in the same boat, but I can't confirm, since I've never gotten one >.<


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by BLA1NE on Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:29 am

    Yup, the Gargoyle Halberd is the same. I must have assumed both were demon, but in a recent playthrough I upgraded a halberd to magic, so I know it has the regular upgrades.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by berkut on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:05 pm

    >.< Man updating takes a while, don't know if I will do much more today....

    Word of advice to anyone looking to help out here who is as noobish at this as I am. The to-do-chart only lists the level of each upgrade path that is known to need work, it doesn't mean those are the only rows that need to be completed for that upgrade path. For example, the lightning path says it needs lightning+4s filled in. But many have rows missing (not made at all) and other pieces of information missing from other rows. So check the rows as you upgrade the weapon to make sure that you catch all of the rows to fill in as you go happy.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by berkut on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:15 pm

    Also, check the values as you go. Even if they were entered after the patch, people still make mistakes. For example, the lightning great club was found to have 324 physical damage and 270 lightning damage, while mine says 270 and 270 respectively, which is more consistent with how other lightning weapons have been.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by BLA1NE on Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:45 am

    Yes, thanks for double-checking existing data at the same time!

    If you need help formatting a page before you fill-in the info, you can ask in this thread and we'll be happy to prep the pages for you.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

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    It would help if my roommate wasn't playing Civ when he was awake, and then by the time I do get access to the computer I just feel like relaxing and not doing something that will drive me nuts :|


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by berkut on Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:21 pm

    Okay, so I am getting some info from Yukon that I am using to do some updates to the wiki. However, it is only the desired values (say +14 normal). Do you still want me to put the x down even if the other values are outdated?


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by BLA1NE on Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:45 am

    Yes, add an x for whatever new info you fill in. If you think some of the existing info isn't right anymore, but you don't have the numbers to correct them, you can write a comment on the page and maybe mention it here, too.

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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Yukon on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:44 pm

    A little late to the party, but my roulette duels have put me in possession of a good amount of weapons, and it keeps growing. So, I made a wiki account, but have no experience with wiki's and from what berkut told me it won't be active to edit for about 5 days.

    So, I just flipped through that link posted in the first page about weapons and progress, and I thought I would post some of my stats for you guys to edit in.

    The ones without X's in that list are unupdated right?

    Here are my findings:
    Broken Straight sword +14
    ATK : 96 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: D str C Dex
    DMG reduction: 20 5 15 15
    Stability: 16
    *** +15 BSS also sales with D str and C Dex, the wiki is incorrect here, so someone should fix that.


    Murakumo +14
    ATK : 271 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: E str A Dex
    DMG reduction: 60 10 40 40
    Stability: 36

    Murakumo +15
    ATK : 282 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: E str A Dex
    DMG reduction: 60 10 40 40
    Stability: 36

    Handaxe +14
    ATK : 192 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: C str D Dex
    DMG reduction: 55 10 40 40
    Stability: 36

    Battle axe +15
    ATK : 237 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: C str D Dex
    DMG reduction: 55 10 40 40
    Stability: 36

    Great axe +14
    ATK : 336 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: B str E Dex
    DMG reduction: 55 10 40 40
    Stability: 38

    DIVINE club +10
    ATK: 120 147 - - Critical 100
    Scaling: D Str
    DMG reduction: 45 10 30 30
    Stability 30

    OCCULT club +5
    ATK: 125 133 - - Critical 100
    Scaling: D Str
    DMG reduction: 45 10 30 30
    Stability 30

    Reinforced Club +14
    ATK : 232 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: B str
    DMG reduction: 45 10 30 30
    Stability: 30

    Reinforced club +15
    ATK : 242 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: B str
    DMG reduction: 45 10 30 30
    Stability: 30

    Morning star +14
    ATK : 199 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: B str
    DMG reduction: 45 10 30 30
    Stability: 30

    Morning star +15
    ATK : 207 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: B str
    DMG reduction: 45 10 30 30
    Stability: 30

    Demon's Great Hammer +14
    ATK : 331 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: B str
    DMG reduction: 50 10 35 35
    Stability: 32

    Claws +14
    ATK : 172 - - - Critical 100
    Scaling: E str A Dex
    DMG reduction: 0 0 0 0
    Stability: 0
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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by berkut on Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:52 pm

    Yukon, did you select anything to join the dark souls wiki? Your wikispaces account will already be active, I just think you need to apply to be accepted to be a member of the dark souls wiki. I will not be able to update the wiki at all tonight, exam tomorrow needs to be studied for. May be able to get on it for a bit Wednesday.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Yukon on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:06 pm

    I clicked that join the wiki link at the top of the page the other night, but it wouldnt let me update then, and when I posted the above it also wasn't leting me edit.

    But I must have got accepted inbetween that time, for the past 20 minutes I have just been working my way down the list adding this information so I think I got it all figured out.

    A few of the other stats are incorrect so I am just working my way through them, and using the black smith to check the +10 +14 and +15 stats of the weapons I posted above. Thanks for all your help the other night, I think I got it figured out now.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by berkut on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:10 pm

    Sweet, good to know, maybe we will be able to get a good chunk of the weapon updates done soon happy. Note BLA1NE's above comment on what to do if the other stats may be outdated, that way we know which ones need to be confirmed for the patch happy


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Yukon on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:41 pm

    All done with the Regular upgrades.

    Someone seemed to have confused the Great Demons hammer with the Great demons axe, so I adjusted it and made +0 - +15 correct in damage resistance.



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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by berkut on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:53 pm

    Nicely done Yukon happy


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Yukon on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:54 pm

    Magic +5 Parry dagger, Magic +5 Bandit Dagger
    Scaling: E D C

    Edited on the wiki, which said it was E E C. Please someone confirm the scaling for +9 and +10, I cannot do magic upgrades until passing sens fortress.

    Parry Dagger +10 fire
    Fire damage reduction changed to 33 instead of 30, the +9 upgrade already reflected this. Can someone confirm the damage reduction for +5 and +0 fire parry dagger?

    and I'm calling it quits for today! phew.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Yukon on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:23 pm

    Sorry for the double post guys.

    I was going through my minimal upgrades at Vamos's pad and checking their stats against the ones found in the wiki. Of the 4 +0 chaos weapons I have looked at none were correct.

    Am I doing something wrong here? How do we calculate the +0 Chaos weapons? I have just been putting the attack damage and then the scale boost it gets at +10 humanity. Should I just leave these as they are? I am worried I am mucking up your guys hard work by editing numbers out. But they are off by like 4-10 attack points in some cases.

    For example:
    Chaos demon gmachette
    250
    -
    250
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    70
    10
    50
    50
    44

    Mine gives me

    232 + 49
    -
    268 +56

    the rest is the same.. What gives?
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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by BLA1NE on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:43 pm

    No, I've noticed that too. Some of them are wrong. If you notice a Chaos weapon's attack rating is listed as the same for physical and fire, then you should be suspicious.

    What you can do is check the page's history. Could be those numbers are pre-patch. If they're recent, then you could try and contact the user who added them and try and figure out where the error comes from...

    Either way, you're doing it right.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Demi_God0415 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:48 pm

    there's a checklist thats being marked after the informations are laid in their respective upgrade path. check if the one that you're filling was already been check (if it was, its not bad to double check if again), if its not then its free for you to fill its informations.
    the demon Gmachete still doesnt have chaos so its more likely to be filled.

    the some scaling are not accurate, as well as the damage reduction even thought it was checked in the checklist

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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Yukon on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:51 pm

    Thanks everybody, I am using the checklist to go through, but double checking the weapons I have even if the x is there. I didn't know I could view the history, I will check that out from now on.

    What should I do in the case that the chaos is filled completely but the box is not checked? Should I leave it unchecked unless I can compare all the way to +5 with 10 humanity? or should I check the boxes if the +0 chaos scaling is correct with what I have found?
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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by BLA1NE on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:56 pm

    ^If you look in the upper-right corner of the page, you'll see a small clock icon with an arrow pointing counter-clockwise; if you hover over it, you'll notice it says "view ## revisions". Click on that and you'll see the list of all the revisions that the page has undergone and when, and by clicking on each revision you can see what was changed.

    Once you're in the revision mode for a page, you can quickly cycle to the previous or next version of the page by using the arrows at the top of the page. That way you don't need to keep going back and forth to the list.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Yukon on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:00 pm

    Oh my god that makes this so much easier. Lol. I had almost 20 windows open editing them one by one while ticking them off in a seperate window that had that list open..

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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by berkut on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:04 pm

    'Facepalms' Sorry Yukon, I should have informed you about the revision history button.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Demi_God0415 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:13 pm

    try to double check if the informations are correct, if so, then check its respective upgrade. if you're unsure whether the stats that has a missing tick are correct but doesn't have the means to correct it, you can place a comment on the page pertaining to the issue (at the save button there will be a drop down menus, save with comment) or post it here.


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by berkut on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:24 pm

    You could also maybe denote it with a star by the X, and add a disclaimer saying all * items need to have their stats checked?


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    Re: Weapon Upgrade Stats at +4/ +14?

    Post by Yukon on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:25 pm

    Thanks guys, I took a break for now, but when I get back into it I'll start doing the x* and a comment on the page.


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