The Gloves Are Off.

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    The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by Railage on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:04 pm

    I've been invading for fairly long time now, and nearly every time I bow.

    But I give up now, I've only ran into about 5 different honorable people, so now the glove are are off.

    I'm about tired of getting backstabbed while bowing, then the host Well What is It'ing" me.

    Call me whatever you want, cause now if I don't get a bow first, the host is getting a face full of Emit Force then my 2h running attack.


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by GrEeNgObLiN on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:06 pm

    Join FC! All honorfull players here!


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:09 pm

    Invader should never bow first. Just hang back for a bit to see what they are doing, if they bow then you bow.


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:11 pm

    What Mildred said.

    Its rare as you've found to find an honorable player. Especially if you're the invader. Even area's dedicated to "honorable" pvp are gone now. I'm not personally part of fightclub but many people seem to enjoy it.

    Don't be discouraged from pvp, there are people like you here.


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by exandroide on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:43 pm

    i summoned a dragon in the Kiln the other day, and the *** rushed me while i was bowing. i'm officially never bowing again outside of FC
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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:45 pm

    Invaders may bow first, then BS you when you bow. I recommend grassing, buffing, then bowing. Get your distance, and observe them. If they rush you, don't go on to the next step. But, don't stoop to their level.


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by exandroide on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:46 pm

    reim0027 wrote:But, don't stoop to their level.

    oh, i would never do that. but i'll bow over their mouldering corpse instead of at the beginning of the fight twisted
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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by reim0027 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:47 pm

    That's good to hear. I have been bowing ever since DeS. It just doesn't feel right to not bow.


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by callipygias on Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:03 pm

    Maneater_Mildred wrote:Invader should never bow first. Just hang back for a bit to see what they are doing, if they bow then you bow.
    Whoa, that has to be from the perspective of an invader. I mean, not bowing at all is fine, but if you are hoping to find, or better yet to create, an honorable duel-type match, bowing is a big part of that, I think. Putting the onus on the invaded to do it first seems backwards to me.
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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by bloodpixel on Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:04 pm

    callipygias wrote:
    Maneater_Mildred wrote:Invader should never bow first. Just hang back for a bit to see what they are doing, if they bow then you bow.
    Whoa, that has to be from the perspective of an invader. I mean, not bowing at all is fine, but if you are hoping to find, or better yet to create, an honorable duel-type match, bowing is a big part of that, I think. Putting the onus on the invaded to do it first seems backwards to me.
    That should be the perspective of anyone. Bowing is risky, considering how many people would take advantage of it, be it host or invader.


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by Zechk on Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:15 am

    I think it's worth the risk. I'd rather get backstabbed bowing than not show respect.


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by aceluby on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:19 am

    I always bow unless I immediately get attacked. I've also never been BS while doing a bow, I just keep my distance. Maybe it's just luck.


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by ARSP on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:47 am

    It happens I don't bow in my duels anymore if my target/invader bows first then I bow if not I assume it's no holds barred (Get ready to get a face full of Chaos Fireball)


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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by Gol on Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:29 pm

    I don't bow when someone invades me, I mean... he is an invader, he's not welcome and I don't expect him to be polite and offer me a cup of tea, he's here to kill me.

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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by skarekrow13 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:44 pm

    I am also of the opinion of "always bow, from a distance." There's a lot of ways to show respect so fight the way you are inclined and respect your opponent the way you are inclined as well. For example, one of my favorite invasions started with me bowing to what looked like a lonely host. He bowed back and started doing the scouting your opponent steps, shield up, moving sideways and the like. Lucky for me I had been facing the right direction when I spawned and saw that there had been a lifebar appear from a direction he didn't come from and expected a second person (a darkwraith in this case). The lesson is that respect is only truly offered from the body of your work and not just a single action.

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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:57 pm

    I always bow as a host and as an invader, actually sometimes to mess with farmers I bow from a distance before killing them, and bow afterwards.

    My view is to always bow, I decided to become human so I'm taking the risk of getting invaded. If I didn't want invaders, I wouldn't be human.

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    Re: The Gloves Are Off.

    Post by Riovannes on Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:13 pm

    My personal view is that I'm going to flip away three times at the start and bow. If they try to attack, I know that they:
    A - Are going to fight "dirty," and deserve a good old stunlock from my Falchion

    B - are part of the small group that I enjoy HCSMing.

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