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    Build advice please!

    Post by nzilla on Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:40 pm

    I'm on ng+ currently getting owned over and over and over again by four kings, beating them now so I can join DW.


    My one and only character:

    level 115

    vit 40
    att 19
    end 40
    str 24
    dex 40
    res 12
    int 15
    fth 8

    planning to go up either to 120 or 125... dependent on advice. I've started to use GMW on my +15 uchitigana, so do I pump 10 points into int so I can use CMW and get the 1.4x rather than 1.1x but be up at 125 (which may hurt pvp??) or stick with GMW for when I wanna use it, and instead just pump 5 into VIT and stick at 120. I plan to finish this run and just pvp, not likely to go onto ng++ quite yet.

    Advice please! I'm just screwing around in the forest right now invading as a blue, farming souls while I wait to decide. So I've got around 800k souls waiting to be use. (which is why I'm not going back to four kings yet, as I will undoubtedly lose all of them!)

    advice please!
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    Re: Build advice please!

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:46 pm

    I'd go 4 into str and use power within and a murakumo. will hurt way more than gmw, esp with your low int. I'd use the extra slots for aural decoy, chamilion, hidden body, or hidden weapon.


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    Post by JY4answer on Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:26 pm

    Chameleon is heaps of fun. Don't bother with buffing in PvP cuz you'll see every cheap trick in the book. I say get to 45 dex and use pyromancies at highest speed possible.
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    Post by Forum Pirate on Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:43 pm

    the trick to buffing is getting good at finding the time. spot them from a distance if possible. buffing during their recovery animation after you bs them works fairly well if your confidant in your ability to stop them bsing you the second they're up. bailing around corners can work too, many tend to expect a wog or firestorm so they hang back a second.


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    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:06 pm

    Your Intelligence is too low, I don't think you'll benefit much from CMW with 25 Intelligence.


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    Post by nzilla on Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:14 pm

    JY4answer wrote:Chameleon is heaps of fun. Don't bother with buffing in PvP cuz you'll see every cheap trick in the book. I say get to 45 dex and use pyromancies at highest speed possible.

    think going to 45 dex is going to make that much of a difference for speed of casting? I do use quite a bit of pyro, only ever put anything into int for the idea of buffing.

    also wondering whether to max out at 120 for best possible pvp or if going up to 125 really matters.
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    Post by JY4answer on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:39 am

    nzilla wrote:
    JY4answer wrote:Chameleon is heaps of fun. Don't bother with buffing in PvP cuz you'll see every cheap trick in the book. I say get to 45 dex and use pyromancies at highest speed possible.

    think going to 45 dex is going to make that much of a difference for speed of casting? I do use quite a bit of pyro, only ever put anything into int for the idea of buffing.

    also wondering whether to max out at 120 for best possible pvp or if going up to 125 really matters.

    The difference is in the matter of a few frames, so its there, but not significant. More dex, however, also gives you more damage on dex weapons. I'd stay at 120 or even stay where you are now, for the sake of invading hosts with slightly lower sl. The japanese standard is sl 100-110.
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    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:45 am

    I say put them on Vitality up to SL 120.


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    Post by aceluby on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:58 pm

    I'd say go get a +10 fire Uchi for 4 kings instead of buffing a +15. I believe they are weak to fire which should benefit you more than the scaling + buff (500+ base damage). Swap out power within instead and you should be able to rock them.


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    Post by nzilla on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:23 pm

    aceluby wrote:I'd say go get a +10 fire Uchi for 4 kings instead of buffing a +15. I believe they are weak to fire which should benefit you more than the scaling + buff (500+ base damage). Swap out power within instead and you should be able to rock them.

    the only fire weapons I have right now are a +10 fire zwei, but that's probably too slow for 4 kings hey? And a +9 fire morning star. What about quelaag's fury sword?
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    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:30 pm

    My 4 kings strategy was as follows

    Full havels, mom, rofap, wolf ring

    equip hardest hitting weapon i have

    tank everything and kill them as fast as possible. admittedly my heaviest hitter was a dmb claymore but it only took the 1 try. (they killed me twice before i tried that way though)


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    Post by aceluby on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:32 pm

    nzilla wrote:
    aceluby wrote:I'd say go get a +10 fire Uchi for 4 kings instead of buffing a +15. I believe they are weak to fire which should benefit you more than the scaling + buff (500+ base damage). Swap out power within instead and you should be able to rock them.

    the only fire weapons I have right now are a +10 fire zwei, but that's probably too slow for 4 kings hey? And a +9 fire morning star. What about quelaag's fury sword?

    I would try out the zwei at least once... it's only one run. The fury sword might be an option, but I think that scales w/ humanity, which could be dangerous.

    With that being said, if you want I have a SL120 mage that would be willing to help you out if you'd like. I just spanked them in NG++ and will be on in about 2 hours for most of the night. Just send me a message.


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    Post by nzilla on Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:25 pm

    aceluby wrote:
    nzilla wrote:
    aceluby wrote:I'd say go get a +10 fire Uchi for 4 kings instead of buffing a +15. I believe they are weak to fire which should benefit you more than the scaling + buff (500+ base damage). Swap out power within instead and you should be able to rock them.

    the only fire weapons I have right now are a +10 fire zwei, but that's probably too slow for 4 kings hey? And a +9 fire morning star. What about quelaag's fury sword?

    I would try out the zwei at least once... it's only one run. The fury sword might be an option, but I think that scales w/ humanity, which could be dangerous.

    With that being said, if you want I have a SL120 mage that would be willing to help you out if you'd like. I just spanked them in NG++ and will be on in about 2 hours for most of the night. Just send me a message.


    might take you up on that offer! I'll try a couple more times myself first, probably heading on in the next 30 or so minutes. Are you a sun bro? Otherwise wouldn't I not be able to summon you as a white since you already beat the boss?
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    Post by aceluby on Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:52 pm

    You can summon me after I've beaten the boss. Send me a friend request on PSN and the next time we're both on I'll help you out if you still need it. Will probably be on this afternoon for a bit and tomorrow evening most of the night.


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    Post by nzilla on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:36 pm

    aceluby wrote:You can summon me after I've beaten the boss. Send me a friend request on PSN and the next time we're both on I'll help you out if you still need it. Will probably be on this afternoon for a bit and tomorrow evening most of the night.

    I actually got it last night! Went Giants chest and hands with brass leggings, crown of dusk and 16 greater combustions and 32 combustions later and me finally learning that to dodge the swings I had to jump towards them (over them) rather than away from them, I got them. Thanks

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    Post by callipygias on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:50 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:My 4 kings strategy was as follows

    Full havels, mom, rofap, wolf ring
    I'll give you $10 if you can beat the Four Kings with those rings equipped!big grin

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