how good would a duel pyro caster be?

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    how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by bedford on Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:54 am

    what the title says. i think it would be fun. gotta where full crimson tho with crown of dusk for that firey red feel

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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by Spurgun on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:16 pm

    it could be very effective depending on how you play with it.you will have to doge a and block a lot. i would recommend GF for when they are coming against you, GC for when they are close to you and occasionally fire tempest/fire storm/ chaos storm. you should at least get some poise so that you don’t get stunlocked by everything.

    this could work, i have PvP-ed using only pyromancies and i usually win 50% of the times. it depends on whether your opponent is careless and rushes and on your timing when you cast the spells. what sl are you aiming to be? oh, and you should put some points in dex for the faster casting time
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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by bedford on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:20 pm

    this is what i had in mind:



    sl 125: wanderer

    80 vit

    23 att

    19 end

    45 dex

    rest defaults

    rh: pyro flame, balder side sword ( backup)

    lh: pyro flame, grass crest shield

    armor: crown of dusk, full crimson

    rings: bellowing dragoncrest ring and ??? favour?

    spells: great fireball, great chaos fireball, fire tempest, great combustion, fire surge.

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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by Spurgun on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:34 pm

    bedford wrote:this is what i had in mind:



    sl 125: wanderer

    80 vit

    23 att

    19 end

    45 dex

    rest defaults

    rh: pyro flame, balder side sword ( backup)

    lh: pyro flame, grass crest shield

    armor: crown of dusk, full crimson

    rings: bellowing dragoncrest ring and ??? favour?

    spells: great fireball, great chaos fireball, fire tempest, great combustion, fire surge.

    i would suggest that you keep the sl at 120, but it is your choise
    you could try to keep vit at 50
    23 att sounds good
    are you under 25% weight with that end if so it should be enough
    45 dex is good too
    having two pyroflames is a bit useless, unless you plan on casting pyro with an upgraded glove and power within with an un-upgraded glove.
    bellowing dragoncrest ring only increases the power of sorceries so it is useless in this build. i would at least use the wolf ring for poise and the other ring is for you to decide.
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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by bedford on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:40 pm

    http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Bellowing+Dragoncrest+Ring

    Increases Magic, and Pyromancy between 20- 26% (see table below for detailed strengthening effects). straight from the wiki

    i find sl 125 more popular

    yes its under 25% weight

    y would i lower vit when theres no where else to put it? its a dump stat

    not sure about whether or not i would use power within, idk how long i would survive, and to counter it i could change grass crest to sanctus or equip the lingering dragoncrest ring as well

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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by Spurgun on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:55 pm

    bedford wrote:http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Bellowing+Dragoncrest+Ring

    Increases Magic, and Pyromancy between 20- 26% (see table below for detailed strengthening effects). straight from the wiki

    i find sl 125 more popular

    yes its under 25% weight

    y would i lower vit when theres no where else to put it? its a dump stat

    not sure about whether or not i would use power within, idk how long i would survive, and to counter it i could change grass crest to sanctus

    sorry i didn’t know that about the ring.

    i don’t really know about 80 vit. puting them somwhere else seems like a waste but having that much vitality also seems like a waste. maybe you could put themin faith for a quik WoG when someone come to close? i am out of ideas for those points.

    on my pyro toon i use a chaos great scythe with my pyro hand. i 2h it and attack then i throw some fireballs in the mix. you could try to use your weapon more.

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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by barecanvas on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:59 pm

    Fire surge is AMAZING. Dont target lock a GC and Fireball and predict your oppenents movements. You can get off good deadangled attacks.
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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by BLA1NE on Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:10 pm

    Pyro is very good for duels, because it has good AoE. It's easy to aim your spells manually, and you'll get anywhere between 400-800 damage per hit depending on the spell.

    80 Vit is a total waste--especially when you only have 23 Att. You're a pure caster, and pyro has no stat requirements; Att is the only important stat for your build. With 23 Att, if you want to attune a chaos spell it'll take up 1/3 of your slots for one spell with anywhere between 1 and 4 castings, that won't get you far in a duel...

    And the dueling level is still 120. Going 125 won't make a difference if you're just dueling with randoms, but if you want to part-take in the wiki organized events it's 120.


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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:48 pm

    bedford wrote:http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Bellowing+Dragoncrest+Ring

    Increases Magic, and Pyromancy between 20- 26% (see table below for detailed strengthening effects). straight from the wiki

    i find sl 125 more popular

    yes its under 25% weight

    y would i lower vit when theres no where else to put it? its a dump stat

    not sure about whether or not i would use power within, idk how long i would survive, and to counter it i could change grass crest to sanctus or equip the lingering dragoncrest ring as well

    Raise attunement to 40, then pump vitality. More slots= More casts/more options. And you would have 40 att and 63 vitality which is more than enough for slvl 125. 2 bs of a strong weapon will still kill you even with that vitality. After 40, vitality starts raising up much more slower.


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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by BLA1NE on Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:56 pm

    ^41 Att, for 9 slots. And the difference between 57 and 62 Vit will be barely anything anyways (44hp), might as well make it SL120.


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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by lextune on Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:34 pm

    This is my pure pyro build.

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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by BLA1NE on Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:43 pm

    Is there a reason for 25 End? If it was me, I would have the End even lower, and Vit a bit higher.

    You have Bellowing Dragoncrest and Ring of Fap?

    I like it, it's a good build. Very close to how I would make it. Digging the 50 Att, mostly.


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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by lextune on Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:58 pm

    I raised the end a bit to be able to block a little. With just starting endurance a lot will stagger you.

    I wear the dragoncrest and the wolf ring. I also try to wear legs and gloves with a little poise....and of course the tattered cloth robe for the legit pyro look.


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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by BLA1NE on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:23 pm

    I thought that might be why... You block, I dodge! I prefer to just avoid getting hit rather than block or be able to tank them with poise. Just different play styles.


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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by Uparkaam on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:37 pm

    That 80 vit is quite useless. Lower it and put some points in att and maybe end for more stamina so that you can dodge more.


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    Re: how good would a duel pyro caster be?

    Post by aceluby on Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:47 am

    How does a build like this counter backstabbers? Seems to me it's a huge weakness


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