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    Post by Forum Pirate Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:15 pm

    http://bitmob.com/articles/dark-souls-isnt-hard-gamers-are-just-stupid-and-impatient

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    Post by Rin Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:24 pm

    lol some of that is true dark souls is not that hard if you got the exp n patients i for example dont have the skill in seeing how a game like cod is fun coz come on the lase 4 cods are exacly the same but drs is new n awesome n it eint going to be degraded by *** cod fanatics...1/2 of the people i know that consider themselves gamers only like cod and fifa n to me they are not gamers
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:30 pm

    He's obviously exaggerating for dramatic effect. I was simply saying his points are valid. Keep your head, be cautious, and try different things and the game isn't terribly difficult. I died 5 times in first playthrough. Parts of skyrim (on highest difficulty) caused me more trouble due to the artificially powerful enemies.
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    Post by Rin Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:10 pm

    lol i never died in skyrim i played it on master n i never realy felt rewarded by the game as much as by drs n thats why i still play drs n not skyrim... killing the boss after asylum demon the 1st time was harder then killin alduin...n the only thin that made my frow my pad at yhe wall was the fact that the game froze evary time
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    Post by Langoulk Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:58 pm

    Dark Souls is challenging, not difficult. Exactly what Forum Pirate said, just pay attention and don't rush and you'll be fine.
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    Post by Rin Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:04 pm

    well said Prostration
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    Post by Tolvo Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:08 pm

    I know a guy who always boasts about how great of a gamer he is, and that he can beat any game. He rented Dark Souls, returned it in an hour because as he said, "It's not a skillfull game, there are just enemies that are ridiculous to fight and unless you're really lucky they'll kill you no matter what. This game isn't challenging, it just kills you for no reason." He said he was going to speed run the game on his first try, I think that shows. It is hard, in comparison I think. But overall I really didn't find the game difficult, I just had to take my time which I always do with games anyway. I'm a thinker not a flat out fighter, so I love to plan ahead. I'd agree with this guy, and no one working at the gamestop here has gotten past the Gargoyles haha. silly
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    Post by Serious_Much Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:15 pm

    It is hard I think, stepping into it first time, for hours you'll be confused, alone, and lamenting how much of a challenge it is.

    Then you figure out what you're doing and it's fine. The hardest part is that you don't get told how everything works like in other games, and once you know whats coming, it's a playground.

    In Dark Souls, knowledge is your greatest weapon. If you have knowledge, you can beat the game without difficulty.

    I agree with the article, though he goes too extreme on some of his points.
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    Post by Rynoa Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:29 pm

    I agree with Serious big grin

    Pay attention and don't rush and die a lot. The first time you meet a boss you don't know his moves, if he has powerful ranged attacks or powerful melee ones. You don't know if he'll chase you, jump on you, poison you or whatever, before meeting him and dying - because most of the bosses can kill you with just 2-3 hits.
    Usually it takes more than 1 try to understand how to dodge the most of his attacks and when it's safe to attack back.

    True, sometimes you get lucky and you kill a boss in the first try, but let's be honest: it will happen only a couple of times max in your first playthrough (for me: iron golem and 4 kings)

    So it's true you've got to have patience and attention, and learn form your mistakes because each time an enemy kills you, you have learned something about him and it gets a little easier.


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    Post by Forum Pirate Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:37 pm

    hyperbole. hes exaggerating.

    I like the nich that core gamers are carving out though. The soul series, bayonetta (on higher difficulties), the later c'ieth stones from ff xiii. Games (or modes) that require you pay attention at all times and have a plan or die horribly are becoming more common now than in the last 6 years or so.

    I hope it keeps up.
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    Post by Yarxov Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:33 pm

    @ Serious, first 3 hours of playing were spent trying to get past the Skeletons with +0 weapons with base stats and no magic or pyro. After dying so many times I look around and see the pathway to the aqueduct. Biggest "Ooooh!" moment of my playthrough xD
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    Post by SlakeMoth Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:42 pm

    I'd love to learn the Demon Fire Sage's moves in new game+. Trouble is I'm dead before I've had a chance to look.
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    Post by Robotech Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:56 am

    this article is correct
    most deaths in dark souls come from frustration, plain stupidity or rushing.
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    Post by Yukon Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:23 am

    I remember when I first went out and bought demons souls a few years ago around fall. The gamestop clerk wearing a hookah-shell necklace says to me "Make sure you keep your receipt, this game is HARD".

    It's an interesting gaming community we have. I wonder how many people actually return the souls games out of frustration for something like that to be said.
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    Post by Yarxov Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:55 am

    ^ according to the gamestop employees, a lot.

    But really when they are exposed to so many games that are meant to be won, a game like this would seem hard.
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    Post by cobrasno1 Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:10 am

    Rin wrote:lol i never died in skyrim i played it on master n i never realy felt rewarded by the game as much as by drs n thats why i still play drs n not skyrim... killing the boss after asylum demon the 1st time was harder then killin alduin...n the only thin that made my frow my pad at yhe wall was the fact that the game froze evary time

    So true. I killed Alduin on the first try in Skyrim. It took me like 10 tries to kill the Asylum Demon though.
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    Post by Zechk Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:19 am

    The thing I find most rewarding is that I can now make my way through the vast majority of the game without dieing very much at all. And that's not because I'm level eleventymillion and in tier 56 epix, it's because I_got_better.


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    Post by ARSP Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:20 am

    Dark souls was hard for the first couple hours until I figured out how it works every death is a learning experience and I learned well. Take that demon firesage, Asylum Demon, Stray Demon, Gaping Dragon, Quelaag, Ceaseless Discharge, Centipede Demon, Four Kings, Seath the Scaleless, Nito, Moonlight Butterfly and Sif. (I beat them in one try on my first time because they were easy)


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    Post by Serious_Much Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:22 am

    Zechk wrote:The thing I find most rewarding is that I can now make my way through the vast majority of the game without dieing very much at all. And that's not because I'm level eleventymillion and in tier 56 epix, it's because I_got_better.

    Perfect.
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    Post by Doelker Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:34 am

    Yarxov wrote:@ Serious, first 3 hours of playing were spent trying to get past the Skeletons with +0 weapons with base stats and no magic or pyro. After dying so many times I look around and see the pathway to the aqueduct. Biggest "Ooooh!" moment of my playthrough xD
    It happened the same to me... Lol! I couldn't believe how strong the skeletons were to be the first enemies in the game after the asylum.
    I tried hours to beat just the first two and then the other 2 by the cliff and they kept reassambling themselves and when I saw the giant skeleton I screamed and ran like a girl to the bonfire... Ohhh good times... Then I saw the path upstairs and said... "Perhaps I should try there instead..." after that I came back to put a message and warn about the skellies.
    Another thing I tried was whenever I had a new weapon I tried it against the skellies to check it performance.
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    Post by Yarxov Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:39 am

    I just assumed i sucked even after beating DS
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    Post by Doelker Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:42 am

    Serious_Much wrote:
    Zechk wrote:The thing I find most rewarding is that I can now make my way through the vast majority of the game without dieing very much at all. And that's not because I'm level eleventymillion and in tier 56 epix, it's because I_got_better.

    Perfect.

    Yeah!!! And you know what is the best part? That now that you know the game and the enviroment you can try different aproaches in new games.
    For example, I started an Int build and before going to ring any bell I already went to get the sword of astora, the one by the rotten dragon, went to get the firekeeper soul from new londo, went to free griggs at the lower burg so I could buy some spells... Anyway, what I mean is that after you learn how to play you start to realize the vast posibilities that are at your disposal to overcomes the challenges...
    Ohhh man, and still feels so rewarding!!! I love this game!!!
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    Post by Tolvo Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:39 pm

    Zechk wrote:The thing I find most rewarding is that I can now make my way through the vast majority of the game without dieing very much at all. And that's not because I'm level eleventymillion and in tier 56 epix, it's because I_got_better.

    Zechk, I know of a certain game you've played based on your words. silly
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    Post by Zechk Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:55 pm

    Crap, I've been rumbled!

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