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    Post by skarekrow13 Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:17 pm

    I have noticed that two of the most epic games in recent memory (albeit for very different reasons) share a common problem. In both Dark Souls and Skyrim shields are given a handle only with no strap to further secure your hold. I had been willing to forgive this until tonight...when I noticed that, in one of my daughter's many viewings of Dora Saves the Crystal Kingdom, that Dora the Explorer's shield got it right. Adding further insult is the sun emblem on the shield. Solaire can't have a correct shield but Dora can? Although her's is a kite shield so perhaps she has a correctly engineered Sanctus.

    Also, if you believe Dora from this episode dragons don't like fighting and will play nice if you lower your weapon. Anyone willing to try this on the bridge to confirm?
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    Post by mugenis4real Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:22 pm

    skarekrow13 wrote:Also, if you believe Dora from this episode dragons don't like fighting and will play nice if you lower your weapon. Anyone willing to try this on the bridge to confirm?

    Confirmed. We're doing lunch tomorrow at Wendy's.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:41 pm

    God I hope you're splitting that bill. That thing's gotta be able to chow at least 160 to 172 valu menu chilis. Which might explain the crankiness and fire breath.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:49 pm

    Yay for you. Sounds like the time I fought the evil version of myself. We shot the **** and realised that we had a lot in common. I still see him every so often and he's doing well. Just got married in fact.

    I hope you and the dragon work out.

    On a more minor note perhaps some characters simply don't have to worry about breaking their wrists in Dark Souls especially when they carry weapons thrice their size and get stomped on by the most beastly fiends to grace the imaginations of game designers throughout the ages.
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    Post by ublug Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:07 pm

    skarekrow13 wrote:Also, if you believe Dora from this episode dragons don't like fighting and will play nice if you lower your weapon. Anyone willing to try this on the bridge to confirm?
    She's not that far off. Next time you cross the bridge to the Parish, try walking slowly instead of running winking
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    Post by Yarxov Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:52 pm

    And the Dark Souls greatshield grip is AWFUL.
    It looks like he's riding a horse!
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    Post by mugenis4real Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:00 am

    Yarxov wrote:And the Dark Souls greatshield grip is AWFUL.
    It looks like he's riding a horse!

    Look into Dark Souls lore. All great shields were once horses transformed by a powerful horselord.
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    Post by Yarxov Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:01 am

    They must be enchanted to make wrists transform into Adamantium.
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    Post by Reaperfan Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:42 am

    I actually noticed this when farming for the Stone Knight Greatshield. The Knights actually have the double strap when they hold it, but when you put it on your character, the second one around the forearm is gone. I actually thought at one point that there seemed to be something around where it had been when you held it that made it look like it was ripped out somehow, but wrote that off as part of my imagination since I couldn't get myself to see it again lol.

    I guess the single strap is just to justify how quickly your character can put the shield away into hammerspace to pull out your secondary left-handed item? With two straps that would probably be a more lengthy process :|
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    Post by Yarxov Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:11 am

    ^ sacrificing accuracy for sake of an already impossible event being ever so slighly less impossible? Seems legit.
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    Post by Reaperfan Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:18 am

    Yarxov wrote:^ sacrificing accuracy for sake of an already impossible event being ever so slighly less impossible? Seems legit.

    FROM knows what they're doing, man winking
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    Post by skarekrow13 Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:55 am

    And to be fair the buckler can be considered accurate as they would typically only have one or the other.
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    Post by Rin Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:16 am

    lol you think the shields are stupid wt baut the way you hold a gratesword if you try it in real you would cut yr own arm off :shock: oh n i now that in some other games they hold it like that but in these games the sword has a blunt side :| ... oh n the thing on the bridge is a drake not a dragon the only 2 dragons in drs are seath n stone dragon
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    Post by Yarxov Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:34 am

    And 2 undead dragons. And like 20 undead dragon backs in Izalith
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    Post by mugenis4real Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:23 am

    Can we count Gaping Dragon as well? Isn't he just a dragon with a deformity?
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    Post by skarekrow13 Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:47 am

    Lol. Yes Gaping is. And yes....the bridge is haunted by a drake which is really From's way of saying that Gwyn lost his power (crown diminished, missing a lot of his soul, etc) and the dragons are long gone. Basically, you're a punk who wouldn't have stood a chance in that epic war scene at the beginning of the game and the only reason you win in the here and now is because everything is a wimp compared to the "good old days." What's this world coming to? 2707236321

    Although, if we're going there than Seath, besides being scaleless has MORE reason for an inferiority complex leading to betraying his kind. The drake sword suggests a DRAGON would be a lot bigger yet Seath is not. So he's scaless AND a runt. The Everlasting Dragon is kind of a runt then too I suppose......sigh.......maybe some day From will give us a "real" Dragon to fight (Dragon God doesn't count because you don't fight him but he was AWEXOME).
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    Post by Reaperfan Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:10 pm

    skarekrow13 wrote:Although, if we're going there than Seath, besides being scaleless has MORE reason for an inferiority complex leading to betraying his kind. The drake sword suggests a DRAGON would be a lot bigger yet Seath is not. So he's scaless AND a runt. The Everlasting Dragon is kind of a runt then too I suppose......sigh.......maybe some day From will give us a "real" Dragon to fight (Dragon God doesn't count because you don't fight him but he was AWEXOME).

    I always assumed that the Blue Drakes in the Valley of Drakes were normal drakes, and the Bridge Drake was some kind of "king drake" breed and was much bigger than the rest. In terms of size of dragons, the Everlasting Dragon certainly is still small if you compare it to Seath or the Undead Dragons (you have to remember we only see the Undead Dragons at half-size, their full size would be a front+back together).
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    Post by Tolvo Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:28 pm

    "Go ahead, try and hit me bro! I've got my shield up!"

    Morgan Freeman-"And then the penguin with a shield had it's area of its wing similar to a wrist broken by the sea lion with a sword. It was then devoured, but the march went on. The others tried to put his mistake behind them as they continued their solemn journey."
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    Post by Rin Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:37 am

    another thin bout the undead dragons is that they r scaless too coz in war ther scales were ripped from their body so its like with yr player you look 2x the size with havels on so an undead dragon would be bigger with scales
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    Post by Darkson Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:25 am

    Ummm... Sorry if that's a stupid question, but you have to explain this to an alien like me...

    What is the difference between a dragon and a drake?

    I can't find any difference(s) in terms of physical characteristics or whatever...
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    Post by Darkson Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:50 am

    I've looked it up a bit now and I found so many different explanations/oppinions.

    Some simply say drakes are just younger/smaller/weaker dragons, some say drakes are dragons that have no wings, some say drakes do have wings but have no front legs, more like a bird, while dragons are more like reptilians (with wings),... 😕
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    Post by Rin Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:57 am

    i think if you look in the drake sword descriptio it shoul explain it but basically dragons in drs are immoral beings that came from before the advent of fire and were coated with the scales of immortality n on the other hand drakes are or might be their cousins, ther like big lizards they have simular features but are different in many ways e.g no scales of immortality n different body shape...drakes are creatures that copied dragons
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    Post by Darkson Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:22 am

    Well, ok, every fantasy game/film/book or myth/tale or whatsoever might have its own... definition... but I thought maybe there's also a generally valid definition... or so...
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    Post by Zechk Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:38 am

    I think the moral of this story can be summarised thus: Do not mess with Dora the Explorer. She will END YOU.

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