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    Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by SeriousDogg on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:09 pm

    Im want to create a build around the Dragonslayer Spear, I know that weapon is sucks but I wanted to do it from the first time I saw Ornstein & Smough in video before I had the game.

    I want an SL 125 character, that will use :

    Dragonslayer Spear - Ornstein's Armor - Silver Knight Shield...

    And maybe an Dragonslayer Greatbow...

    I am realy thank to anyone that will help me... sorry for my bad English happy
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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by Wade_Wilson on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:12 pm

    Use the leo ring as well. Pump point into vitality and endurance, then faith for the princess guard miracles.


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:23 pm

    Why 125?


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by SeriousDogg on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:26 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Why 125?


    Because that spear need a lot of STR and DEX to hold it 22 and 22, and that spear will be effective only on higher levels...


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by callipygias on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:28 pm

    That's a pretty cool build idea, though I'd go shieldless whenever possible. Ornstein looks so cool slow-walking with his spear in one hand and the other empty.
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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by SeriousDogg on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:34 pm

    callipygias wrote:That's a pretty cool build idea, though I'd go shieldless whenever possible. Ornstein looks so cool slow-walking with his spear in one hand and the other empty.

    I know, i will be with no shield when i travel in weak places like Undead Burg, Parish, Darkroot Garden... But in places like Anor Londo, Blighttown, Duke's Archives, New Londo, you want so f*cking hard to put shield on your hand...

    It's so bad how they make that spear, extremly high requirments and low damage, but it scales good, it should be much more strong.

    And it's so bad that they doesn't include Ornstein's Mane it's called? on his helmet, but still, his armor has the best looking in the game.


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:38 pm

    SeriousDogg wrote:
    callipygias wrote:That's a pretty cool build idea, though I'd go shieldless whenever possible. Ornstein looks so cool slow-walking with his spear in one hand and the other empty.

    I know, i will be with no shield when i travel in weak places like Undead Burg, Parish, Darkroot Garden... But in places like Anor Londo, Blighttown, Duke's Archives, New Londo, you want so f*cking hard to put shield on your hand...

    It's so bad how they make that spear, extremly high requirments and low damage, but it scales good, it should be much more strong.

    And it's so bad that they doesn't include Ornstein's Mane it's called? on his helmet, but still, his armor has the best looking in the game.

    Indeed his armor is gorgeous, Im trying to help you but the stat calculator doesnt work when I put points on Faith.....


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by Reaperfan on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:50 pm

    Just threw this together, though I think you may be able to take some out of END since I'm not sure if the site has been updated since the equip load increase that came in the 1.05 patch. Wearing the RoFaP to compensate for slightly lower VIT and END stats, this should get you full Ornstein's gear + Dragonslayer Spear + Silver Knight shield with a medium roll, as well as having a decent amount of DEX and FTH to take advantage of the scalings. I also threw in some stats towards 2 attunement slots so you can use a miracle or two since you'll have such high FTH, but you may want to relocate those to VIT or END if you don't think you'll need them. Lemme know your thoughts?


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:51 pm

    If you want to use the DSB, you'll need to crank up the End to make up for it. Here's my recommended stats for you. I'll give you 2 different ones, one with DSB, the other without.

    DSB / No DSB
    Warrior class
    Vit: 50
    Att: 8
    End: 50 / 40
    Str: 30 / 40
    Dex: 40
    Rest = no change
    Wood and Fap Rings

    That should get you close to what you want.


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by bloodpixel on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:57 pm

    Ornstein doesn't use a shield.


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by Reaperfan on Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:01 pm

    Update! Just toyed around with it some more, and if you start as a Bandit or Cleric with what I posted earlier instead of a Warrior you will be able to get one more stat point put in. It's not much but it's something happy

    bloodpixel wrote:Ornstein doesn't use a shield.

    It's the difference between a clone build and a character build. As long as he uses the full armor set and spear, he'll be fine with using a fitting shield and taking advantage of some of his other stats winking

    EDIT: The more I think about this the more I kinda want to do it myself lol. I may be stealing your idea at some point silly


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:16 pm

    Reaper - I like it, but with that Vitality and a medium roll, you'll have to be really careful.

    Here's an alternate, slightly less powerful build (no DSB though, unless you want to fat roll).

    DSB / No DSB
    Bandit class
    Vit: 40
    Att: 8
    End: 40
    Str: 24
    Dex: 40
    Faith: 36
    Rest = no change
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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by Bito on Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:17 pm

    30/40 DEX 30 FAITH and 24/16 STR
    that will be good stat for DSS big grin
    since it have B on DEX & FAITH
    just don't forget Leo Ring big grin


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:34 pm

    Ok SeriousDogg the Dragonslayer Spear scales well with Dex and Faith. With Str scales well too, but I compare

    40 Dex 40 Str 24 Faith = 479 AR

    40 Dex 24 Str 40 Faith = 483 AR

    You can make an Dex/Faith build hybrid with these stats:

    Starting class Knight/SL 120

    Vit 30

    Att 19

    End 29

    Str 24

    Dex 40

    Int base

    Res base

    Faith 40

    After 40 Faith the AR doesnt increase. With 50 Faith AR 485, so dont waste them. Use Darkmoon or Canvas Talisman. WoG, TWoP, Bountiful Sunlight, Great Lighning Spear, Karmic Justice or Great Heal. DWGR and Leo Ring.

    Edit: You'll need the FAP ring to compensate medium endurance. Sorry no Leo Ring sad


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by RANT on Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:12 pm

    if you really dont wanna use a shield use the dark hand.


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by Grey-Ronin on Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:34 am

    I'm making an Ornstein Build as well and my reccomendations are:

    Start As Bandit


    VIT 40
    ATT 10 If you don't want any miracles leave at 8
    END 40
    STR 24
    DEX 35
    RES 11
    INT 8
    Faith 39

    Rings: Dark Wood and FAP

    Right Hand: DSS - AR = 488
    Left Hand: Grass Crest Shield
    Left Hand 2: Canvas Talisman

    Miracles: Greater Lightening Spear or if you are not so worried about cosplaying so much WOG

    Armor = Ornstein, but I would replace the gloves with giants gloves to get poise above 53

    Two hand the spear with the shield on your back. Not exactly like Ornstein, but works well. This build I think can even do alright in PVP.

    Some modifications can be made by reducing faith and increasing ATT so you can get more miracles etc
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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by SeriousDogg on Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:27 am

    Thank you guys, and about the rings i will use the Ring of Favot and Protection, and the Leo Ring
    leo ring improves your Thrust attacks? and improves counters (Parry?)
    and im not so worry about PVP this build is more for PVE and Co-Op.
    And another thing, i will use Very Large Physique.


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    Re: Dragonslayer Ornstein Build

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:38 am

    I read on the other wiki that a counter means when a enemy is about to hit you, you interrupt his attack or at least hit him before he hits you. It also says counter occurs when you hit an enemy immediately after hitting you. Try practicing with the hollows and see the results.


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