Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

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    Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by DJ_XHERO on Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:09 pm

    Another poll guys with my existenxe question

    I go for a dex faith build

    Occult pjaris bow got a S of faith scaling but got leds base damage than darkmoon

    darkmoon got highest base damage and d scaling from faith and dex

    What bow i should go¿

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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:27 pm

    Midgar wrote:https://sites.google.com/site/darksoulstats/dark-souls-calculators

    That will easily make the choice for you.

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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by Midgar on Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:29 pm

    Pretty sure I use the Darkmoon Bow on my Dex/Faith, but if I'm not mistaken a composite bow does more damage then either at +5 occult with moonlight arrows. This is under the assumption you have 40 Dex/50 Faith so find out what's best for you. The type of arrow can make all the difference.


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by Midgar on Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:29 pm

    Maneater_Mildred wrote:
    Midgar wrote:https://sites.google.com/site/darksoulstats/dark-souls-calculators

    That will easily make the choice for you.

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    I post a lot of helpful things, generally doesn't give me +rep lol.


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by DJ_XHERO on Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:38 pm

    I got 40 dex 50 faith

    So occult composite bow is better than darkmoon bow¿

    I use moonlight arrow (i thinkndat detail was pretty obius)
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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by Gol on Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:12 pm

    Midgar wrote:
    Maneater_Mildred wrote:
    Midgar wrote:https://sites.google.com/site/darksoulstats/dark-souls-calculators

    That will easily make the choice for you.

    You get + rep for posting helpful stuff.

    I post a lot of helpful things, generally doesn't give me +rep lol.


    Same here man.
    I think it's a curse or somethin like that.

    I'm using darkmoon bow on my dex faith (40 dex/faith) and it does pretty decent damage, didn't try the occult pharis bow but even with S scaling in faith, the base damage is pretty low. :|
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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:18 pm

    don't forget to account for rate of fire and range. Pharis's bow is good for long distance headshot sniping but has a slow rate of fire (also has longest range of any bow at 65) the composite and DM bow have a higher rate of fire (as far as i can tell their equal to each other though) but the DM bow has 50 range and the composite only has 38.

    what are you going to use this bow for in particular?


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by DJ_XHERO on Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:20 pm

    i want to use it in the forest for harass xD

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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by Midgar on Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:57 pm

    DJ_XHERO wrote:i want to use it in the forest for harass xD

    Black Bow of Pharis might be better than if you're looking to just annoy people since it has the best range. You could also try the Avelyn if you want to be annoying, shoots 3 bolts and stuns people, it has a short range though.


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:47 pm

    hawk ring+ ring of fog with pharis bow(of any sort) with poison arrows is fun! long distance headshot!

    also here is a nice bow pvp vid (how many times have i posted this now?):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHWtgGGx5aQ


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by Midgar on Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:13 pm

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:hawk ring+ ring of fog with pharis bow(of any sort) with poison arrows is fun! long distance headshot!

    also here is a nice bow pvp vid (how many times have i posted this now?):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHWtgGGx5aQ

    The first two opponents which are the only ones I watched just keep trying to dodge his arrows and don't even attack him, hell they even let him keep loading up the arrow for his Dragonslayer Bow which takes forever, his opponents seem mentally challenged to me.

    Edit: It would be awesome if bows were actually useful in direct PvP combat but they aren't sadly.


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by Forum Pirate on Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:51 am

    1 Word, dragon. Never let a dragon with a bow do anything or you will probably just die.


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by Chumgeyser on Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:07 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:1 Word, dragon. Never let a dragon with a bow do anything or you will probably just die.

    Why?

    btw that video with the PvPer using a Dragonslayer Bow... If you have the arrow pulled back and your opponent targeted, is there anyway they can hit you without getting hit back? It seems like the attack from the bow is nearly instant at close range, so if someone commits to a melee ranged attack you should be able to hit them, right?
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    Post by Forum Pirate on Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:16 am

    They'll bs you, and the order the game does the math in means it fatal.


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:38 am

    i think thats why he used the dragon slayer bow, yes. also the dragon form has a calculation glitch with bows when used for back stabs (yes bow bs's are possible) i.e the unarmed damage bonus of the dragons claws gets mixed with the bows attack and scaling for a massive amount of damage. one guy even acheived 30,000 damage using this techique and other various buffs.


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by BLA1NE on Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:35 am

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:don't forget to account for rate of fire and range. Pharis's bow is good for long distance headshot sniping but has a slow rate of fire (also has longest range of any bow at 65) the composite and DM bow have a higher rate of fire (as far as i can tell their equal to each other though) but the DM bow has 50 range and the composite only has 38.

    what are you going to use this bow for in particular?
    This is a much more useful comment than a damage calculator.

    In Dark Souls, the damage rating in the stats screen means very, very little, compared to the weapon's usefulness in battle. Moveset, range, and speed are all > damage. So for bows, it's range and speed.

    Also, does magic damage rating on bows affect the damage arrows do? I made a Magic +9 bow on a mage character to test it vs a Regular +14. The Magic one had a higher damage rating, but the regular outdamaged it every hit, even for backstabs.


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    Re: Occult pharis bow or darkmoon bow¿

    Post by Chumgeyser on Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:27 pm

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:i think thats why he used the dragon slayer bow, yes. also the dragon form has a calculation glitch with bows when used for back stabs (yes bow bs's are possible) i.e the unarmed damage bonus of the dragons claws gets mixed with the bows attack and scaling for a massive amount of damage. one guy even acheived 30,000 damage using this techique and other various buffs.

    Interesting. Supposedly the Leo Ring works with arrows. Might be a nasty combo.

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