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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Rynn on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:21 pm

    It is hilarious to kinda know that "Discoveries you only made recently" is THE MOST popular topic of ALL TIME though <3
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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Leet on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:31 pm

    I think we've all came to the consensus it's cluttered. silly 

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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Rynn on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:42 pm

    Rather than simply saying to change it back, perhaps we should find something else to do with it.
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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:49 pm

    Rynn wrote:It is hilarious to kinda know that "Discoveries you only made recently" is THE MOST popular topic of ALL TIME though <3
    Now you've done it Forum, you've fed the ego super-narcissism proteins. We'll never hear the end of it now. winking silly 

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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by twigsterxd on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:52 pm

    Rynn wrote:Rather than simply saying to change it back, perhaps we should find something else to do with it.
    There's 3 of us in chat right now discussing alternative ways. Hopefully an admin comes in or checks the archives big grin


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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by FexDS on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:54 pm

    As I said before I went to bed last night and several times doing the past 4 days: the only way to test the themes fitting on screens that aren't average is to make it live, hence here we are. It fits fine on my screens but I have no way of knowing yours.

    Our previous theme had a very clean look but was aalso a black hole for information since we had little means to call attention to important subjects like the wiki progress. We are working towards improving our "at a glance" of information and like any change of its form I expect it will feel like too much for a few days.The widget content is placeholder and intended to be replaced as we go along, and we have the option to make 1 sidebar instead of two - but i needed to test background witdhts on your ends first so we can find the % that works.

    Ftr: sorry you don't want to see ads. A shame money for new software won't spontaneously appear.


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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:58 pm

    I'm fine with ads, the bills need to be paid and I'm more than happy to help in whatever small capacity I can so they're alright.

    But as I've told you a week or so ago (and as others have wrote here) I'm limited to only mobile devices and a netbook these days and this new layout is very difficult for me navigate.

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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Leet on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:00 pm

    No one has really said anything about ads. It's the widgets.

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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Dibsville on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:02 pm

    TooLeet wrote:No one has really said anything about ads. It's the widgets.


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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by FexDS on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:04 pm

    Leet go read back - things about the ads were certainly said happy

    Pendant, you can use the mobile version for mobile browsing, it removes all themes and makes it bland but it works perfectly silly

    As I said, we will work on widget content to improve looks/etc, this was not intended to be final and the reason I asked Serious to create this thread the moment it went live.


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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Rynn on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:05 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:
    Rynn wrote:It is hilarious to kinda know that "Discoveries you only made recently" is THE MOST popular topic of ALL TIME though <3
    Now you've done it Forum, you've fed the ego super-narcissism proteins. We'll never hear the end of it now. winking silly 
    Like I've ever been one to really brag.
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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:07 pm

    FexDS wrote:

    Pendant, you can use the mobile version for mobile browsing, it removes all themes and makes it bland but it works perfectly silly

    I'll do that then. I just have had it on the classic Forum look for so long on my mobile that I didn't even think of it.bounce

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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by reim0027 on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:12 pm

    I like the new info. On my screen, the columns aren't symmetrical with the background, but that may be a tough fix.

    It is a little cluttered, but it isn't bad and the new readily accessible info is nice.


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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by WaffleGuy on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:20 pm

    BUG DETECTED!

    Bug:

    ...:
    But seriously, nothing bad happened so far.

    So, as I said before, it's a bit all at once, but I like that you can see the calendar for events and new topics created first thing when you get to the page silly


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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Leet on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:21 pm

    1366 x 768:

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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by twigsterxd on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:27 pm

    Fex check the far right of this pic where the widget is plz.




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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:34 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:lol. I just feel sorry for our OCD friends who may be trying to use their laptops like a touch screen to move that final tab back to where it belongs silly
    straight face  not talking

    I have to scroll right to see anything.  And it looks out of place without a background; I thought there was a problem loading the page the first time I saw it.


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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Marino. on Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:12 am

    Okay, i've disabled Adblocker for this site and Fextralife .


    Now, what is the Calendar in the top left for ?
    And i think the "Latest Topic" section looks kind of cluttered and i think it's unneeded since you can just manually check if there are new Topics, but that could just be me .

    Can't we just cut the stuff from the left side to have more room for the posts ?
    Some Signatures for example are cut off for me .

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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by FexDS on Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:18 am

    I needed more information on resolutions and stuff to implement more tweaks, please post me your resolutions and browsers if having issues. Also noteworthy, the built-in forumotion widgets suck :PI'll rebuild them as we go along but it's a time consuming process so please be patient.

    I'm going to be testing several things for the next few days, so expect pages to load oddly here and there. And Marino yes, next thing to test out is if one column of widgets works happy\

    Calendar: This will change specific event dates to a different color when we have fightclubs or covenant stuff scheduled. There are no events currently booked so nothing showing, but it would be a quick reminder for people of what is happening and when, and it gives exposure to people who don't read covenant sections and such.


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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Dibsville on Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:27 am

    Here's mine, if it helps. I use Chrome.


    1680 x 1050:

    Doesn't look too bad in the picture, but it gets in my way a lot.



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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Sentiel on Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:31 am

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:
    Onion Knight wrote:Quick! Everyone get mad!
    Lol, so perfect
    Is that some sort of mean gist at everyone who doesn't like it?
    It's a typical internet trollish reaction to negative opinions originating from the simple "If you don't have anything positive to say, remain silent" attitude.

    Fex, a good example.
    I don't read Covenant section, because I don't care about it, thus exposing me to it's contents forcefully on the front page with a widget, or a calendar update will only result in me hating the said feature and section and completely losing any interest in it.

    All of these changes are unnecessary, nor beneficial to me as a user. On the contrary, most of them worsen my user experience with the forum.

    Why not create multiple forum themes to select from? Let people who like the old forum browse the old forum and people who like these widgets use a new forum theme with the widgets.

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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by FexDS on Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:10 am

    It is impossible to tailor the experience to each individual, as this thread demonstrates. Some people love seeing the information, others hate it.

    What we aim for is the middle, like every other site/forum out there. If all it takes for you to "hate" the site is a few widgets popping up then I suppose you don't have much love for it to start with. sad

    Multiple themes are an option once we own the software. Right now we are very limited on what can be done, and have to use the tools available to facilitate information to the majority.

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    Anyway, now that I have more data on how your screens I looking I could merge up with analytics info and such and the one sidebar widget option should be fitting on the average screen. Over 50% of our users are on 1080 res so they will have no problems. Netbook users let me know if it's still buggy, but it should only cut off the widgets for you which should not be a major issue



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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Serious_Much on Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:22 am

    Actually sen it's more in reference to the fact humanity naturally opposes change for a variety of reasons that aren't too hard to look up.

    But this is why the threads here, debugging and compromise. I'm sure there's bits everyone doesn't like here... Though there's actually no widget for covenants atm so that comment confuses me.


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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

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    I have visited Gametrailers.com for many years as my main source of game information, reviews and occassional goofy vids. It was a great experience. However they added a feature that won't allow you to play vids without turning AdBlock off, to allow ads to be visible on their site. It's a simple matter of few clicks really. I threw all the years of faithful visiting behind me in an instant and will never return there. I harbour an extreme hatred towards any and all commercials, advertisements and other methods of promoting someone's product, or services.
    Same to games. If I won't like the changes in DkS 2, I'll sell the game immediately and never play Souls games again, except for the older ones, that I like. Just like I did with many game series already. You'll find FF I-X on my HDD, but no other FF title released after X for the very same reason.
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    Re: New Forum Layout!- Suggestions and Bugs

    Post by Hugh_G_Johnson on Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:51 am

    YES!  Everything is on the right now!  Much better! big grin OK -- now it's in that "I don't like it 'cuz it's change" realm, instead of the "oh, no what'd they do to the forum!?" realm. silly


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