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    An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:05 pm

    I really like this guys opinion on topics such as Morality and such in PvP. Like, don't send threatening hate mail. 



    So, anyone else want to comment on this?

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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Rynn on Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:15 pm

    I'm not watching the video; i'm just commentating. Morality is a two way street, if my opponents treat me like another player, I will do the same. If they didn't cheat, I will keep my gripes over their actions to myself, and they should stay there. We need to all remember we're relaxing though, and not intentionally go out of our way to destroy an opponents experience. That means don't grief, or hack, but don't be afraid to defeat your opponent in a competitive game.
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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:37 pm

    Foxeo blocked me from his channel. That, in and of itself, tells my opinion on the matter.

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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Rynn on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:14 pm

    Wait, you mean he explicitely blocked -you-?
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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:18 pm

    Yes, he sent me a PM explaining his reasons for it and everything.

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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:22 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Yes, he sent me a PM explaining his reasons for it and everything.
    And? Did you do something bad?

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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:27 pm

    I just called him a hypocrite and told him that he angles to create situations that fit his PvP philosophy. I used cuss words, true, but it's YT so so does everyone.

    He called me a troll and told me that if I don't clean up my act that I will be put in with the worst of the worst YT has to offer.

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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Rynn on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:32 pm

    Still got that PM?
    And no, everyone does not use cuss words. I hold my arguments out without needing to do that, you should too.
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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:35 pm

    Yeah. Do you want me to PM it to you or should I just spoiler tag it here?

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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:36 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Yeah. Do you want me to PM it to you or should I just spoiler tag it here?
    Spoiler tag. Spoiler Tag.

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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by The Letter X on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:37 pm

    I've watched Foxeo's videos since he first started doing commentary on Dark Souls, and he's still one of my favorite commentators. Even though I disagree with a lot of the stuff he says, I can understand every point he makes - and there is normally good reason for each one.

    That being said, I still believe there is a lot left to be desired on the way he handles things on his channel. I do not like the way he reacts to people bad mouthing his channel (even though he normally responds with a well-thought out argument in my opinion), sometimes I believe he blocks too many people from his channel for the wrong reasons, and he speaks a lot about hypocrites yet he sometimes goes back on his word in later videos when he says something.

    I'm not trying to flame the guy or anything, but I doubt Pendant was blocked from his channel for good reason.


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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:41 pm

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:
    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Yeah. Do you want me to PM it to you or should I just spoiler tag it here?
    Spoiler tag. Spoiler Tag.
    Ok, but it's really nowhere near as exciting as you might think.

    Spoiler:

    FoxeoGames
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    Hi,

    Your comments were deleted and you have been blocked for posting trollish comments.

    If you subscribed to my channel, you are now unsubscribed. I would encourage you to elevate your maturity level so as not to be part of the cesspool of YouTube trolls.


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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Marino. on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:46 pm

    I dislike most of the Dark Souls commentators because they want to bring their "superior" "moral" into the Game .
    It's an instant kill for my fun .
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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Rynn on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:48 pm

    Haha. Well okay then.
    He sure thinks mightily of himself if he thinks he can group people like that.
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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Leet on Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:20 pm

    Any uploader i have came into contact with, held themselves above "non-uploaders." I have had a few instances with uploaders blowing up on me because i didn't quite agree with what they said and i let them know, which is what then comment section is for, no? 

    I ultimately have stopped watching their videos, besides Dark Project Mayhem. One of the funniest things is if you're gonna talk about tryhards, don't be a tryhard yourself. 


    But, this isn't a thread to flame uploaders. They just need to realize the viewers is what keep them moving. If you want a bunch of mindless casuls saying 'eYz LykE uR Cha0S bLaDEZ bR0" then more power to you. 


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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Rynn on Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:37 pm

    TooLeet wrote:Uploaders do hold themselves above "non-uploaders."
    Some uploaders.
    I've never liked sweeping statements like that.
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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Leet on Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:07 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:Uploaders do hold themselves above "non-uploaders."
    Some uploaders.
    I've never liked sweeping statements like that.
    Lol. I edited it just for you.

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    Post by Rynn on Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:26 pm

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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Leet on Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:30 pm

    Rynn wrote:<3
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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:34 pm

    I just don't think being humble in your opinions is something that goes with being what they probably see as being a pillar of the dark souls community as an uploader.

    I saw another video of his when he was talking about divine blessings, then near the end pops one himself. That video gave me all I needed to know what he's like


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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Rynn on Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:54 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:I just don't think being humble in your opinions is something that goes with being what they probably see as being a pillar of the dark souls community as an uploader.

    I saw another video of his when he was talking about divine blessings, then near the end pops one himself. That video gave me all I needed to know what he's like
    Wait, did he seriously like go into a video about how divine blessings are bad, and then use them while making the video?
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    Post by The Letter X on Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:58 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:I just don't think being humble in your opinions is something that goes with being what they probably see as being a pillar of the dark souls community as an uploader.

    I saw another video of his when he was talking about divine blessings, then near the end pops one himself. That video gave me all I needed to know what he's like
    Wait, did he seriously like go into a video about how divine blessings are bad, and then use them while making the video?
    Yep, he normally says something like, "I don't mind if you use hacked/glitched Divine Blessings as long as you use them after your opponent uses them."

    Once again, not hating on the guy. I like his commentary, but some things are iffy.


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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:58 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:I just don't think being humble in your opinions is something that goes with being what they probably see as being a pillar of the dark souls community as an uploader.

    I saw another video of his when he was talking about divine blessings, then near the end pops one himself. That video gave me all I needed to know what he's like
    Wait, did he seriously like go into a video about how divine blessings are bad, and then use them while making the video?
    Maybe it was to prove a point. If you want to say something's bad, you should use it to make sure.

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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Rynn on Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:01 pm

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    Rynn wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:I just don't think being humble in your opinions is something that goes with being what they probably see as being a pillar of the dark souls community as an uploader.

    I saw another video of his when he was talking about divine blessings, then near the end pops one himself. That video gave me all I needed to know what he's like
    Wait, did he seriously like go into a video about how divine blessings are bad, and then use them while making the video?
    Yep, he normally says something like, "I don't mind if you use hacked/glitched Divine Blessings as long as you use them after your opponent uses them."

    Once again, not hating on the guy. I like his commentary, but some things are iffy.
    Eh. My opinion on divine blessings is there is inherently nothing wrong with them, the issue is that due to certain exploits they are very easy to exploit. I personally take the stance that if you're going to use them, you should make sure your opponent both has them, and wishes to use them. Than we can go have some Demon Souls type combat and really go wild.
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    Re: An opinion on Fairness and Morality with PvP.

    Post by Leet on Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:03 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:I just don't think being humble in your opinions is something that goes with being what they probably see as being a pillar of the dark souls community as an uploader.

    I saw another video of his when he was talking about divine blessings, then near the end pops one himself. That video gave me all I needed to know what he's like
    Wait, did he seriously like go into a video about how divine blessings are bad, and then use them while making the video?
    Yup. There was a thread not too long ago about it. I believe Serious actually posted it himself? But yeah. "Divine blessings blah blah blah, hacking blah blah blah (pops divine blessing) blah blah blah"


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