[SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

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    [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by Seignar on Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:34 am

    [url=http://mmdks.com/46rl]Link to Build[/url]
    First, I got to ask if I get points for being such a daredevil or for using Darkmoon Seance Ring?
    Anyway. probably one of the least common builds, one where the mastery of the arcane arts is absolute. A build capable of using any magic to create a mixture of traps and incredible pressure.

    In addition, the build is outfitted with 77 poise and capped defenses while maintaining a mid-roll and maxed damage outputs (nearly).

    Alas, I am inexperienced with the building of 50/50 magic builds, so I must ask my more knowledgeable brethren for the opinions.

    That and I believe there hasn't been that many build threads as of recently...

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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by Montante on Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:52 am

    If you're using Velka's talisman you won't be getting much use of that high faith stat for your WotG. I'd either swap the talisman out for another one with higher mag adjust OR (preferred option) drop your faith down to 28, since the +22 levels you have in it now does nothing with that talisman.
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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by The Letter X on Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:00 am

    Just a question, why would you want that much poise and go mid-roll with such little HP?


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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by FinPeku on Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:50 am

    600hp, midroll, no shield and a mage build with slowest casting speed... Why 76 poise? Are you planning to trade hits with 616 HP? Against a zweihander? One roll backstab will often kill you, and when playing a mage build roll bs is a constant threat. 

    50/50 mage build sounds like a cool idea, but it's too difficult to do at sl 100. Int/faith hybrids however are doable. I tried to keep the idea of your build and this is what i came up with: http://mmdks.com/46vk

    + More hp. You really need to be able to survive at least one backstab with a mage build.
    + Fast roll. 
    + Spear to finish your opponent and for dealing some chip damage. People like to attempt parries and backstabs against spears. That's a perfect opportunity to blast them with dark bead or great combustion.

    - Less poise. Still enough to tank 2h greatsword running attack.
    - Sorceries will deal slightly less damage. 236adj with logan's catalyst, 217 with tin darkmoon.
    - Less defense.


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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by Aigaios on Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:38 am

    I apologise in advance for my rudeness, but why would you call this build a Spell Master? This build is just a combination of all the most overpowered spells in the game, that are the easyest to use. straight face


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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by Montante on Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:57 am

    One thing that's really efficient for the stat investment is to use the Gravelord dance miracles (no faith requirements) with Velka's talisman on an intelligence build. It's no WotG, but it's still a miracle and it won't cost you any additional stat points.
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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by FinPeku on Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:08 pm

    Aigaios wrote:I apologise in advance for my rudeness, but why would you call this build a Spell Master? This build is just a combination of all the most overpowered spells in the game, that are the easyest to use. straight face
    It's just a name. What does it matter? 

    All those spells are good, but dark bead, wog and great combustion are only powerful if your opponent is close to you. And even then they are easy to dodge and/or roll backstab. Pursuers can be tricky to dodge because of how lag affects it, but it has very long casting time.  His build is midrolling without a shield, with 616hp and you're saying he should change his spells to something worse? Come on now...


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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by Seignar on Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:30 pm

    Aigaios wrote:I apologise in advance for my rudeness, but why would you call this build a Spell Master? This build is just a combination of all the most overpowered spells in the game, that are the easyest to use. straight face
    Well, it needs a name and I'm pretty sure that "Master" pretty much means "overpowered" in most cases, at least, from what I learned in anime/video games...

    Montante@: But, I'm using Darkmoon Talisman and Fire Tempest is stronger than GGSD in all cases (I tested it).

    Finpeku@: Thanks for the feedback. I took the advice and lowered INT to 32 and used the Tin Darkmoon. I took those extra points and put them into VIT and ATT to take off the Darkmoon Seance. I'll still be using the Moonlight Greatsword for its added long-range attacks. I also lowered the poise to 56 and Fast Roll. Simply enough, I made into a bit of a variation to the build you posted.

    Letter X@: Old samurai saying: "If you go into battle expect to live, then surely you will die. If you go into battle expecting to die, then surely you will live."

    ...Now that I think about it, it means I should have Fat Rolled with 0 poise, my survival would have been guaranteed!

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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by The Letter X on Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:59 pm

    I was just wondering if I was missing something. With only 600 hp, you wwouldn't be able to put all that poise and mid-rolling goodness to use. silly

    And when I go into battle,  I expect to fight. Nothing more, nothing less.


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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by Montante on Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:48 pm

    Seignar wrote:
    Montante@: But, I'm using Darkmoon Talisman and Fire Tempest is stronger than GGSD in all cases (I tested it).
    Yes, but right now you're paying 22 points into faith for a 27 mag adjust improvement for WotG. I'd save those points and put them into vitality or something else and go with Velka's talisman instead.
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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:55 pm

    Hmmmm, it's a good try, but I think for an Int/Faith hybrid with what you're looking for, you're better off going to 120. 

    That and I'd drop Pyromancy completely, get yourself a decent shield and just keep the Talisman in your L2 slot and your Catalyst in your R2 slot. 

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=273582896180965887

    Something like this.

    You're fast, you can take hits, you have a killer melee weapon, 62 poise and multiple castings of the most powerful spells in the game.


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    Re: [SL100] Suggestions for the "Spell Master"?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:06 pm

    However, if you're dead-set on SL 100 and you're okay with midroll, I've prepared this. 

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=187141421204780724

    No Pyro but who gives a damn, you've got 103 poise, 1300 health, a decent amount of stamia, and multiple castings of the most OP spells in the game...not to mention a shield (which is essential for any build that isn't fast rolling) 

    Actually, this build might be pretty OP when used effectively.


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