Turtle tip

    Share
    avatar
    ScottyDoesKnow
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 148
    Reputation : 10
    Join date : 2013-05-15

    Turtle tip

    Post by ScottyDoesKnow on Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:23 pm

    So up until about 5 minutes ago I would always have trouble with turtles. The guys who have their shield up the whole time and do an R1 every once in a while. Hard to parry em, hard to backstab em. Usually I'd grab the shotel and get aggressive, but half the time I would still die since the R2 is so easy to dodge. Or I'd try to get right up close so the range on the shotel hit them during the dodge, and then get backstabbed.

    The solution: pull out the shotel and turtle right back. Keep your shield up the whole time, stay defensive and then throw out a one handed R2 every once in a while. Easy win and they get to see how frustrating their tactic is.
    avatar
    shadowzninjaz
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1068
    Reputation : 10
    Join date : 2013-01-12
    Age : 17
    Location : Korea

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by shadowzninjaz on Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:39 pm

    What i do against a person i know is turtling i try to poison them with a bow or i poise bs them, dead angling works well against turtles to but shotel is the easiest way to deal with them


    _________________
    Hiya!!!
    Psn: shadowz_ninjaz
    Skype: shadowz.ninjaz
    avatar
    Soul of Stray Demon
    Revived
    Revived

    Posts : 2424
    Reputation : 39
    Join date : 2013-06-11
    Age : 21
    Location : Sitting next to Encore... "watching television"

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:40 pm

    shadowzninjaz wrote:What i do against a person i know is turtling i try to poison them with a bow or i poise bs them, dead angling works well against turtles to but shotel is the easiest way to deal with them
    Poison Resin Shotel. It annoys turtles so much.

    avatar
    reim0027
    Moderator
    Moderator

    Posts : 6715
    Reputation : 381
    Join date : 2012-01-28

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by reim0027 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:05 pm

    Good turtles know how to not be BSed and know how to use their spear's reach to keep a shotel at bay. I'd rather fight gankers all day than to face off against a good turtler.

    I have so much better things to do with my time than to spend 10 minutes on a boring tedious fight.


    _________________


    PSN usernames: reim0027_2,   reim0027_3,  and reim0027_5.  Skype ID: reim0027  
    Tour of Lordran Soul Levels  //  Official Wiki Fight Club // Forest Invasion Soul Levels // Low Level Invasion Rules
    avatar
    Leet
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1375
    Reputation : 70
    Join date : 2013-06-10
    Age : 25

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Leet on Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:26 pm

    When i'm up against a turtle and the fight is getting boring, I'll usually just stand there and stare at them. Of course they will keep turtling and i will play with them and dodge all their attacks. Sometimes they'll realize they're a boring idiot, sometimes they do not. Shrug 

    avatar
    kazumoshi
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 302
    Reputation : 9
    Join date : 2012-05-11
    Location : British Colombia

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by kazumoshi on Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:11 am

    TooLeet wrote:When i'm up against a turtle and the fight is getting boring, I'll usually just stand there and stare at them. Of course they will keep turtling and i will play with them and dodge all their attacks. Sometimes they'll realize they're a boring idiot, sometimes they do not. Shrug 
    This every single time.
    The easiest way to take out a turtle is play the waiting game and mess around with them.


    _________________
    Wave
    avatar
    DigitaLinsanitY
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 252
    Reputation : 31
    Join date : 2012-07-13

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:14 am

    Meh, I tend to just pull out a gold tracer. It turns it into a quick fight that no one enjoys... but at least it's over... regardless who wins.


    _________________
    I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
    avatar
    Pilgrim34
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 215
    Reputation : 7
    Join date : 2013-03-21
    Age : 26
    Location : UK

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Pilgrim34 on Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:22 am

    reim0027 wrote:Good turtles know how to not be BSed and know how to use their spear's reach to keep a shotel at bay.  I'd rather fight gankers all day than to face off against a good turtler.

    I have so much better things to do with my time than to spend 10 minutes on a boring tedious fight.
    Reim is definitely correct but most turtlers aren't this good.

    Chain BS them as a punishment for being boring players (this is easier without hornet ring).


    _________________
    avatar
    Xero
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 154
    Reputation : 15
    Join date : 2012-10-21

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Xero on Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:22 pm

    Good turtles is an oxymoron.


    _________________
    GFWL:Zbljuv
    Steam:Zbljuv
    avatar
    reim0027
    Moderator
    Moderator

    Posts : 6715
    Reputation : 381
    Join date : 2012-01-28

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:04 pm

    Be careful with the GT if they have a medium shield that can parry. After spending a lot of time in the forest, I'm fairly decent at parrying a GT R1 spam (and I assume others are as well).


    _________________


    PSN usernames: reim0027_2,   reim0027_3,  and reim0027_5.  Skype ID: reim0027  
    Tour of Lordran Soul Levels  //  Official Wiki Fight Club // Forest Invasion Soul Levels // Low Level Invasion Rules
    avatar
    shadowzninjaz
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1068
    Reputation : 10
    Join date : 2013-01-12
    Age : 17
    Location : Korea

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by shadowzninjaz on Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:13 pm

    I'm for on a good turtle, me being one helps me fight others when im not since i have an idea how to play i will scout out what there moves are going be during the fight and look to see if i can dead angle or poise bs etc.... 

    U basically have to play around and wait n wait all day for an opening, Which can be boring but worth XD


    _________________
    Hiya!!!
    Psn: shadowz_ninjaz
    Skype: shadowz.ninjaz

    Lacedaemon
    Newbie
    Newbie

    Posts : 32
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2013-09-10

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Lacedaemon on Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:18 pm

    Whenever I encounter a turtle, since I am not the best at dead angles, I will simply rush them and continue the attack until their guard breaks and when they roll away after wards they usually do a very stupid evasive maneuver which ends up getting them bs. Thankfully I've never had the pleasure of meeting what most would call a 'Skilled Turtle' so this tactic tends to work out pretty well
    avatar
    Forum Pirate
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 6625
    Reputation : 232
    Join date : 2012-01-30
    Age : 26
    Location : International waters

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:24 pm

    dead angle with a spell or heavy weapon, even force will do the trick, and then bs them while they're stunned. using the zweih as my example, you'll deal 1500 ish damage unbuffed and without the hornet ring.


    _________________
    Your rules are yours
    My honor is mine.
    Perspective is everything.
    We are Exiles, and our home is Painted with the blood of trespassers.
    avatar
    Seignar
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1206
    Reputation : 106
    Join date : 2012-08-07

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Seignar on Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:01 pm

    Plan 1: Deadangle/Shotel
    Plan 2: Poison Arrows/Poison/Toxin
    Plan 3: Backstab
    Plan 4: Bleed Spam
    Plan 5: Turtle Back
    Plan 6: TWoP MLG N00B!
    Plan 7 (If you can't/won't/suck at doing plan 6): Quit, saves you time

    Spear/Turtling are the most boring tactics in the game

    avatar
    Soul of Stray Demon
    Revived
    Revived

    Posts : 2424
    Reputation : 39
    Join date : 2013-06-11
    Age : 21
    Location : Sitting next to Encore... "watching television"

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:02 pm

    Seignar wrote:Plan 1: Deadangle/Shotel
    Plan 2: Poison Arrows/Poison/Toxin
    Plan 3: Backstab
    Plan 4: Bleed Spam
    Plan 5: Turtle Back
    Plan 6: TWoP MLG N00B!
    Plan 7 (If you can't/won't/suck at doing plan 6): Quit, saves you time

    Spear/Turtling are the most boring tactics in the game
    8. Elemental Bows with poison arrows. Do some chip damage and poison them.

    avatar
    Leet
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1375
    Reputation : 70
    Join date : 2013-06-10
    Age : 25

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Leet on Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:41 am

    TooLeet wrote:When i'm up against a turtle and the fight is getting boring, I'll usually just stand there and stare at them. Of course they will keep turtling and i will play with them and dodge all their attacks. Sometimes they'll realize they're a boring idiot, sometimes they do not. Shrug 
    Cowardly downvoter back again.


    SlintEastwood
    Casual
    Casual

    Posts : 35
    Reputation : -2
    Join date : 2013-08-18

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by SlintEastwood on Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:50 pm

    Xero wrote:Good turtles is an oxymoron.
    Not really.
    avatar
    reim0027
    Moderator
    Moderator

    Posts : 6715
    Reputation : 381
    Join date : 2012-01-28

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:05 pm

    It does take skill to be a good turtle. But a good turtle is one of the most annoying player to fight, hence the animosity.


    _________________


    PSN usernames: reim0027_2,   reim0027_3,  and reim0027_5.  Skype ID: reim0027  
    Tour of Lordran Soul Levels  //  Official Wiki Fight Club // Forest Invasion Soul Levels // Low Level Invasion Rules
    avatar
    Maplepop
    Regular
    Regular

    Posts : 77
    Reputation : 7
    Join date : 2013-03-12
    Age : 32
    Location : Northampton, UK

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Maplepop on Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:49 am

    Unlocked Painting Guardian Sword R1 spam works wonders


    Last edited by Maplepop on Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:07 am; edited 1 time in total


    _________________
    DEAD
    avatar
    Sentiel
    Compulsory Poster
    Compulsory Poster

    Posts : 3181
    Reputation : 231
    Join date : 2012-11-26
    Age : 29
    Location : Mushroom Kingdom

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Sentiel on Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:24 am

    reim0027 wrote:It does take skill to be a good turtle.  But a good turtle is one of the most annoying player to fight, hence the animosity.
    I am honestly surprised to see an unbiased opinion on turtles in here.
    Have a +1 from me good sir. happy

    avatar
    Xero
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 154
    Reputation : 15
    Join date : 2012-10-21

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Xero on Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:40 am

    Why would you want to be a good turtle?


    _________________
    GFWL:Zbljuv
    Steam:Zbljuv
    avatar
    billy_bayonet
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 5912
    Reputation : 177
    Join date : 2012-02-27
    Age : 28
    Location : ENGLAND!!!

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by billy_bayonet on Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:37 am

    kick, kick and then kick again


    _________________
    "War is based on deception"- Sun Tzu

    "No matter how honourable you think you are we all have a darkside"
    Despair shall become you


    lordgodofhell wrote:I love receiving hatemail but this is more like stupidmail on his part. Still, I can feel his pain. I mean, we all know Billy is OP need nerf.

    Graelaoch wrote:! Oh yes, Billy is Op and needs nerf. laughing
    avatar
    shadowzninjaz
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1068
    Reputation : 10
    Join date : 2013-01-12
    Age : 17
    Location : Korea

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by shadowzninjaz on Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:51 am

    reim0027 wrote:It does take skill to be a good turtle.  But a good turtle is one of the most annoying player to fight, hence the animosity.
    Me with an estoc XD



    _________________
    Hiya!!!
    Psn: shadowz_ninjaz
    Skype: shadowz.ninjaz
    avatar
    Ahhotep1
    Compulsory Poster
    Compulsory Poster

    Posts : 3133
    Reputation : 206
    Join date : 2012-05-07
    Location : Where ever my interests beckon!

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Ahhotep1 on Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:21 am

    Turtle-pokers are annoying, indeed. Kick, stun, or use shield negating weap or trick.
    Other then that even turtles gotta leave themselves open at various times. So, no big deal as far as I'm concerned.

    avatar
    FinPeku
    Chat Moderator

    Posts : 848
    Reputation : 94
    Join date : 2012-03-23
    Age : 26
    Location : Finland

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by FinPeku on Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:50 am

    It looks like i'm alone with this, but i find turtles interesting to fight. When i'm using a dex or quality weapon at least. With str weapons they are a pain. Turtles are interesting to fight because i know so many counters against them but i have to try and decide which one of them to use and when. Should i go for a running bs? Am i close enough to parry? Can i dead angle with this weapon? And so on. 

    But i very rarely encounter turtlers. And the majority i do are not very good at it. So, if you ever invade me or i invade you, don't avoid shield pokes simply to be nice. I don't mind at all.


    _________________
    “Soul of the mind, Key to lifes ether….
    Soul of the lost, Withdrawn from it’s vessel….
    Let strength be grant, So the world might be mended….
    So the world might be mended…”

    Sponsored content

    Re: Turtle tip

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:07 am