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    Armor Sets, Poise Breakpoints and you

    Post by Graelaoch on Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:57 pm

    Hello Again Forumers!! Grae here with my topic of the day. So today, lets talk about what armor we use for pvp, the style factor and poise points you  deem most important. also, does Defense for phys, mag, light, and fire play any part in your choices. I know I enjoy my Crystal Helm, Dingy Robe, Wanderer Gloves, and Knight Leggings. gives 58 poise with wolf ring, does not weigh to much, and over 300 phys def and close to 300 for all magical ones, so for me, it seems to be all around a good set for everyday use. What does everyone else use? Also, 58 poise is overshooting it for me, but I lilke the armor set-up.


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    Re: Armor Sets, Poise Breakpoints and you

    Post by robsthedon on Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:07 pm

    Hollow soldier waistcloth FTW, single best piece of amour in the game, it's the fap of armours. I've been using so long I actually like the look of it now big grin

    As for breakpoints 31 or 61 for me.


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    Post by Graelaoch on Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:10 pm

    I am not a scot, skirts and kilts are not for me. Its either pants or gtfo lol. Seriously tho I wish the hsw was not so dang awesome. I just dont like to play girl chars or wear skirts
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    Re: Armor Sets, Poise Breakpoints and you

    Post by Leet on Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:56 pm

    Looking good>Function. 


    But, there is a lot of armor that does both. Here is a good armor setup i like to use. There are better setups for this build but i like the looks of it. If i recall correctly it gives me 61+ poise. Which i usually go with.




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    Re: Armor Sets, Poise Breakpoints and you

    Post by shadowzninjaz on Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:01 pm

    I mostly use a giants gloves knigth leggings and elite knight helm with wanderer coat, it gives me 41 poise without wolf ring and good defence, also i look very sharp in it :'D


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    Re: Armor Sets, Poise Breakpoints and you

    Post by Graelaoch on Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:32 pm

    Don't forget guys does just the look and poise matter or do the defensive stats help sway you?
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    Post by shadowzninjaz on Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:51 pm

    Graelaoch wrote:Don't forget guys does just the look and poise matter or do the defensive stats help sway you?
    the best defence to aim for is 330 phyiscal defence and yes looks poise and defence all matter.

    U dont wanna run around looking like a twitch fanboy wearing mom mask chain chest, hollow waistcloth and kat flipping XD


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    Re: Armor Sets, Poise Breakpoints and you

    Post by Leet on Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:33 pm

    The problem with high physical defense is most of the time you're gonna have low magic defenses. I tend to aim for high physical defense anyway, but when i run into mages i get dusted. This is why i've since started wearing maiden and dingy robe to at least offer me some decent magic defense. Plus they're both light and give pretty good physical defenses too.

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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:50 pm

    TooLeet wrote:The problem with high physical defense is most of the time you're gonna have low magic defenses. I tend to aim for high physical defense anyway, but when i run into mages i get dusted. This is why i've since started wearing maiden and dingy robe to at least offer me some decent magic defense. Plus they're both light and give pretty good physical defenses too.
    Do what I do, put high magic defense gear right under your physical defense gear, and if you're invading try to be cautious and see what they are using before you start fighting them. Lots of times I'm able to see them during that summoning sequence, (the invincible one) and I can swap right then.

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    Post by SirArchmage on Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:41 pm

    For anyone that has seen my builds, they know I am great at combining functionality and aesthetics. Some things that I have learned about making builds, or things that I just really emphasis in my build making process.

    Catarina leggings are mostly cloth with armored boots, and have exactly 13 poise to make 53 with wolf ring. Gloves are big, but still able to be used.
    Knight of Thorns helm and Iron Bracelets. One of the best armor set ups for thorn armor.
    Giant leggings are the same as Catarina leggings, except with 61 poise.
    Witch hat swag. Thief mask swag. Pharis hat swag. All very light weight helmets, with the Witch Hat weighing a surprisingly low 1.1.
    Most "tryhard" armor set up? Mom Mask, Havel gloves, Iron Leggings. 77 poise with massive health.
    Waistcloths are for nubs.
    Coats are for pros.
    Do you have a lot of extra weight? Chester coat. Not enough? Witch coat. Not enough? Wanderer coat. Not enough? Hollow thief armor. Not enough? Painting guardian robe.
    Prioritize aesthetics first, then poise, and then maybe defense.
    Almost always have as much poise as you can dish out. Exceptions when people with to fast roll with things like the Zwei or Great Club.
    Lord Blade Waistcloth and Lord Blade Chestpiece give 54 poise with wolf ring.
    Gough Leggings are made of almost no armor but give 13 poise. Use them for funny builds.
    The sack is surprisingly a good helm for lightweight builds that don't have much weight left.
    Knight gloves are amazing.
    Never go under 31 poise unless you have a plan against it, or absolutely can't get to the weight requirement.
    91 poise is the highest you should go.
    Wolf Ring > Havel Ring

    Those are some of the things concerning armor in my build making process. Can say that Giant and Catarina leggings are my two favorite armor pieces, as well.


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    Re: Armor Sets, Poise Breakpoints and you

    Post by ScottyDoesKnow on Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:13 pm

    Always style above everything. Then poise. I never even look at my defense. I pretty much always get at least 56 poise. For me, perfection is 36 poise with an open ring slot.

    My favorites:

    Elite/Naked/Havel/Wanderer (36 + optional wolf)
    Thief/Dark/Favor/Knight (36 + optional wolf)

    Thief/Naked/Giant/Wanderer (61 with wolf)

    Thief/Dark/Havel/Elite Knight (56)

    Thief/Naked/Vanquisher/Knight (56 with wolf)
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    Re: Armor Sets, Poise Breakpoints and you

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:33 pm

    I try to at least have the poise to tank a kat. Often that means just using a Wolf's Ring. But, I go here: http://www.raymondhill.net/darksouls/darksouls-armor-calc.php I select a balance between poise and physical defense.


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    Re: Armor Sets, Poise Breakpoints and you

    Post by Maplepop on Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:53 am

    I'm a sucker for aesthetics... I don't care too much for defense.


    Hollow thief's chest + leggings + Black Knight Gauntlets + (female) Brigand Hood


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    Post by robsthedon on Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:29 am

    Graelaoch wrote:Seriously tho I wish the hsw was not so dang awesome
    From trolled us


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    Post by Bassman Bob on Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:50 am

    Channeler waistcloth and gauntlets, Paladin armor, and Dusk crown (most of my builds are casters) And wolf ring. Gets me up to 70 poise.

    As seen on my "Uberkill" build.


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    Post by Lacedaemon on Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:37 am

    Full elite knight set all day erreyday. High defense, *****' style, and decent poise at 46. Enough to take two 1h katana hits which is plenty for me. Although if I feel the need ill throw on a Wolf ring for 86 total poise.
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    I like high poise with movement speed

    Post by Wolfyre on Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:49 pm

    I personally go with Giant Helm,arms and leggings all +5 with the Wanderer's Coat +10. Need RoFP and Havels for the fast run but you get 61 poise. Excellent defense and the fast roll. Grass and buff and you can tank 2 hits from the great swords and stunlock the heavy weapon spammer to death. twisted
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    Post by TheMeInTeam on Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:42 pm

    I like making it to 76 poise and midrolling. In that context, I'm flexible, but physical defense is important after that in PvP.

    Sadly many good pieces of equipment in this game take pointlessly excessive farming to attain rather than risk or difficult maneuvers, and so I often wind up with the now-hated GIANTS, GIANTS, GIANTS. Do I do it to be funny? To troll? To be a tryhard?

    Nope. I do it because I'm lazy, and you can BUY giants and then BUY twinkling titanite and suddenly you have the highest physical defense armor set, 77 poise with choice of hat or mask (mother being the best in function, and again attractive since it starts maxed when you get it).

    At least I don't usually look like a pure giantmom with a zwei, because zwei is standard upgrade path big grin. Screw farming chunks, let's buy a giant halberd and upgrade that too! For dex things like tracers and silver knight spear work. Not much good no-effort pickups for str though unless you want to wait for black knight gear to be guaranteed in kiln.

    I use havel's a lot for this reason too. Excellent poise, respectable defense, no upgrade effort at all. Smough's works for this purpose as well.

    I feel like if you've beaten the game you should be able to buy any desired upgrade material for souls. Why did they only give us twinkling titanite, but not chunks? Farming gets tiresome, and now people hack/mule and call it fair when to compete with that one must also at least mule.


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    Post by Shakie666 on Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:09 pm

    No offence, but I don't know how people can wear 4 completely different items together and think it looks good. The best looking loadouts are ones with a full set of armour. I've never liked mixed armour setups, they just look... wrong somehow. Especially when the armours are completely different colours. My ideal build would be something like this (you'll notice that i'm using the full set of giants, including the helm). Strangely I can tolerate the pinwheel masks, though its probably just because i've gotten used to them (which is kinda disturbing when you think about it), and the crown of dusk (but only on female characters).

    EDIT: Actually, there is one full set I can't tolerate. I will NEVER EVER EVER wear smough's armour... don't even get me started on that abomination (luckily giant's is superior in pretty much every way).
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    Post by Graelaoch on Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:01 pm

    This is what I am using now, I figured since people have been posting I would show it.
    http://mmdks.com/48s8

    Also, I like this armor look together looks like something a warrior would use back in the day, and it makes me happy.
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    Post by CrackSouls on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:09 pm

    All of my builds use lightweight armour, usually I try to aim for 13-15 poise so I can slap a Wolf Ring on to tank most hits if I feel I need to.

    Sadly my new SL125 build, which probably has my favourite weapon set up of all time, cannot go to 13 poise without Hollow Soldier Waist Cloth.
    I chose 0 poise.
    **** those leggings. I have a kilt in real life, so I don't mind that idea, but it looks so stupid with most other armour pieces.


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    Post by Qyntius on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:42 pm

    Lacedaemon wrote:Full elite knight set all day erreyday. High defense, *****' style, and decent poise at 46. Enough to take two 1h katana hits which is plenty for me. Although if I feel the need ill throw on a Wolf ring for 86 total poise.
    This is exactly what I have been doing lately. claymore backed up with an Estoc, and a crest shield to top it off.


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    Post by DARKR466 on Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:29 am

    http://m.mugenmonkey.com/?c=243041579572180391 I dunno but this is a build i enjoy using frequently
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    Post by announakis on Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:46 am

    I always do combos that look good and offer a decent amount of defense for a fast roll.
    the best I came up with so far is for a female
    thief mask
    Chester coat
    stone guardian leggings
    panting guardian hands

    with my claymore, the dark hand and the short bow+ pyro glove, wearing the ring of favor and protection, it gives 23 points of poise. this is enough to play properly to avoid being staggered by the dagger or arrows
    and if you want to play sloppy and raise your poise to tank any hit you can with wolf ring


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