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    Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by ScottyDoesKnow on Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:38 pm

    Is this possible? The connection didn't seem that laggy, the first time I fought the guy he got me with 3 WotGs in a row. I figured I just screwed up my rolls and he got me. The second time I was mashing dodge after the first one, the second one sends me sprawling anyways before I can even dodge.

    Has anyone experienced this? Or must the lag have been just bad enough to cause it?

    Of course it has to happen against the guy using DMB claymore, TWoP and WotG.
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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:54 pm

    was he just timing it to hit you as you exit a roll, because i do that.

    if youvgot wtunlocked with wog though, that would be new. it wasnt purple was it? if it was, its a haco, otherwise, it could be lag, or just good timing.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:55 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:was he just timing it to hit you as you exit a roll, because i do that.

    if youvgot wtunlocked with wog though, that would be new. it wasnt purple was it? if it was, its a haco, otherwise, it could be lag, or just good timing.
    WoG can stun lock for 2 hits in a row right? So if just the first time you mistimed, and the second time was just two hits, it sounds perfectly normal.

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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Qyntius on Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:56 pm

    Someone messaged me about this today in Oolacile, coincidental?


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by ScottyDoesKnow on Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:57 pm

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:WoG can stun lock for 2 hits in a row right? So if just the first time you mistimed, and the second time was just two hits, it sounds perfectly normal.
    Is this true? I've never heard of this.
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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:11 pm

    if youre midrolling. even then its not an actual lock, its just tough to avoid the second hit.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by elloguvnas on Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:29 am

    Some guy earlier was doing this. I was ninjaflipping and he still caught me everytime. (his build was centered around high poise wotg casts)
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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by ScottyDoesKnow on Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:39 am

    Qyntius wrote:Someone messaged me about this today in Oolacile, coincidental?
    Ya was in oolacile on PC. Are you saying you're the guy? Because I didn't ask him about it.
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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Qyntius on Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:26 am

    ScottyDoesKnow wrote:
    Qyntius wrote:Someone messaged me about this today in Oolacile, coincidental?
    Ya was in oolacile on PC. Are you saying you're the guy? Because I didn't ask him about it.
    No I am not, the guy asking me that thought I was the host in a world he invaded and the wotg spammer would've been the second invader, but he was mistaken. I guess it's safe to establish that there was someone today in Oolacile abusing wotg in some way. I hope it's not going to be some kind of trend.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:19 am

    On Pc nothing would surprise me. That being said WOG can be tricky at times, getting hit always throws off my timing and 50% of the time i end up being hit by the 2nd as well. Sometimes i think you're better off with 0 poise againtst WOG, take the knockdown rather than the stun and the follow up wog or bs.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Aigaios on Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:00 am

    Wait, if you are on the PC then the invader could have modded his/hers casting time right? There is a lot more hackers can do on the PC so it's quite possible.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:17 pm

    wog with 45 dex


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by DigitaLinsanitY on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:31 pm

    I was under the impression that wog casting speed was uneffected by dex.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by ScottyDoesKnow on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:42 pm

    DigitaLinsanitY wrote:I was under the impression that wog casting speed was uneffected by dex.
    Indeed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQbuYeZXNiM
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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by OrnsteinBro on Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:35 am

    WOTG can stunlock. It's happened to me before, and I've also stunlocked with it before. Both times were against German players, so lag may have had a hand in it.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by The Letter X on Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:59 pm

    I remember fighting someone a while back with over 15 WoGs. I got hit once or twice in the first 3 invasions, but in the 4th invasion I mistimed a roll pretty badly and was stunlocked to death.

    I went through a longer and different recovery animation when I got hit in the last invasion. I still don't know exactly what happened.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:12 pm

    45 dex will increase casting speed for BF/GC to stunlocking capability. Does that apply to WoG too?


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by CrackSouls on Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:32 am

    I know it's a simply theory, but possibly lag? Lag has done some weird things to me in multiplayer. (but still more rare than people make it out to be, IMO)


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Leet on Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:16 am

    I don't believe 45 Dex effects the casting speed of miracles. 

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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by AnCapaillMor on Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:21 am

    It does on the lightning spells, seen a video or 2 on it, but never heard anything on WOTG.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by befowler on Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:13 pm

    It may have been the Ring of the Sun's Firstborn.  I think it slightly increases the range on WoTG.  One of my faith builds uses that ring not for the minor damage boost it gives, but because it makes even DWGR jockeys screw up their rolls pretty badly against WotG.  With increased range but the same cast speed it can sometimes feel like the spell gets off faster (since the wave travels a greater distance in the same amount of time), and because folks tend to miss subsequent roll evasions they feel like they get stunlocked.


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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Leet on Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:22 pm

    As far as i know, i've never heard of Ring of the Sun's Firstborn making WOGs radius bigger. The description is:

    Increases offensive miracle damage by approximately 25%, depending on the spell

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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:51 pm

    TooLeet wrote:As far as i know, i've never heard of Ring of the Sun's Firstborn making WOGs radius bigger. The description is:

    Increases offensive miracle damage by approximately 25%, depending on the spell
    Actually I don't think the Ring of the Sun's Firstborn does it.

    The one that does it is the Sun Princess.

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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by Leet on Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:44 am

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:As far as i know, i've never heard of Ring of the Sun's Firstborn making WOGs radius bigger. The description is:

    Increases offensive miracle damage by approximately 25%, depending on the spell
    Actually I don't think the Ring of the Sun's Firstborn does it.

    The one that does it is the Sun Princess.
    That acts as resonance ring. That makes forces range slightly higher and same with emit force. WOG though just increases damage by 4.5% or 9% based on synergy boost or double synergy boost.

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    Re: Fast cast WotG hack?

    Post by divinebeanpole on Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:22 am

    I am curious about this as well, I keep running into Wog casters and the range has been crazy 1 out of every 10 players i run into


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