Rome II Total War. Avoid it like the plague.

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    Rome II Total War. Avoid it like the plague.

    Post by Onion Knight on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:29 pm

    Rome II Total War is after all the hype, bluster and PR campaigns of Sega a huge disappointment. Fundamentally flawed, unfinished, broken and a not only a terrible sequel to Rome Total War but a terrible game which has damaged the Total War IP.

    On the unfinished and broken points. The game is unoptimised as hell, it has stack full of performance issues across all ranges of hardware including framerate, crashes, glitches and visual failures. Both battle and campaign AI barely function.
    The game needed by all accounts at least another 6 months of development for the game to be released in a playable condition. 

    On the gameplay aspects looking at the real time battles. They have become easy on the verge of pointlessness. Capture points now are no longer restricted to seige battles. Battles have descended into 'rush the point' where it essentially is an auto-win feature. This is before you take into account the battle ai which when functioning during normal battles rushes you in a blob making it easy even on higher difficulties to slaughter them. Whilst on siege battles the ai is broken and literally does nothing. Historical battles have been reduced to a footnote with only 3 present and multiplayer is terrible if it actually functions.

    The turn based campaign map is also worse. Family trees for some bizarre reason only known to Creative Assembly have been removed. Diplomacy doesn't work. Agents can be used to block enemy units. The campaign ai is just as bad as the battle one. The civilisations other than the Roman, Macedonian and Egyptian factions have limited building and troop options ( much less than RTW) This is before we mention that for either performance issues or just terrible design choice it usually takes 2 minutes at least for the ai to complete their turns.

    On the community aspect a huge core of community interaction A.K.A modding has been incredibly restricted by CA. It has become clear now as to why. DLC. There is DLC here ladies and gents AT LAUNCH with more on the way. We know where Sega is taking this business model.

    In short avoid at all costs. If I were a 'gaming journalist' I would give it 3.5/10 with the blurb 'Was not ready for release.'


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    Re: Rome II Total War. Avoid it like the plague.

    Post by Carphil on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:22 pm

    Thanks for the tip and interesting review, I havea friend who loves it, but I never got too much interested to tried it


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    Re: Rome II Total War. Avoid it like the plague.

    Post by Onion Knight on Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:30 am

    No worries Carphil. These are the issues that I personally have encountered so far. There are other documented ones too like broken public order and so on. The low score is due to the fact that it is so unfinished and that it has so many issues at launch right now. It's just bad for everyone involved when games get tossed out in such a state.


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    Post by Tolvo on Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:36 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGFcUWzzO-8

    Some of the things currently being witnessed by players.
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    Post by Onion Knight on Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:45 am

    I've moved from frustration to anger to unhinged laughter to just now settling at sadness. 



    It makes you wonder what the hell the internal testing team have been doing for the last year?


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    Post by Tolvo on Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:47 am

    "Hey guys, no one tell them a thing about all these bugs, just tell them its all in working order.  It's going to be such a massive prank on the community!"-Testers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba2vFhvhz8I
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    Re: Rome II Total War. Avoid it like the plague.

    Post by Onion Knight on Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:52 am

    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t12831-rome-2-total-war-thoughts-and-fears

    I predicted this would happen almost a year ago and I still went out and bought it due to my love of the series. Now I've just sent it back off to Amazon for a full refund. Oh well. Least I have escaped the ordeal without losing money.


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    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:16 am

    This makes me sad. I absolutely love rome total war, it's such an amazing game... By the sounds of it they just killed off everything good about the series


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    Re: Rome II Total War. Avoid it like the plague.

    Post by Onion Knight on Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:30 am

    This has sadly been coming. If it wasn't Rome II it would of been the next game. They've almost destroyed the I.P before when they released Empire TW in a similarly unfinished state but they then redeemed themselves by releasing one of the best games in the series : Shogun II TW. Eh I don't know anymore. Sega as a publisher certainly hasn't helped the series much. Creative Assembly however also haven't helped themselves very much either with their boisterous claims pre-launch.


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    Post by Tolvo on Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:42 am

    Sega is publishing it?  Well there is a part of the issue right there, I didn't know Sega had their hands in it.
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    Post by Onion Knight on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:03 pm

    Yeah. Well and developed really, they bought out Creative Assembly in 2005 after the success of Rome Total War. But CA has kept a good deal of independence despite this.


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    Re: Rome II Total War. Avoid it like the plague.

    Post by Onion Knight on Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:58 pm

    Annnd ... the mods are rolling out faster than the official patches are to fix the game.


    -Campaign and Battle AI fix mods.
    *Campaign AI now functions better - utilises diplomacy and is actually agressive.
    *Battle AI also functions better - Makes better use of formations and has fixed some of the bizarre oddities in its decision making. 

    Seriously the TW community as a whole is one of the most passionate, productive and helpful around and have already made more progress fixing the game than the guys who are getting paid for it at Creative Assembly. A long way to go till it's fixed and functional to an acceptable standard of course. 

    Things are seriously messed up.

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