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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Tolvo on Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:17 am

    It can be done with spears as well.  I don't believe the shieldpoke though will work I never got it to.  But yes you can do it while DWGR flipping around with a demon spear.
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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:26 am

    I'll use it of course, but i don't like it


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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by SlintEastwood on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:03 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:they're dead angles, can they be parried?

    Also, spear r1+dead angle= not ok. seriously, screw that noise. i really hope i'm not needing to explain why.
    People are overreacting. The person who posted the video detailing how to perform the ghost strike (saberXmachine) fought a really good Estoc Turtle I know while using ghost strikes with a Silver Knight Spear. They went 1-1. If this tech doesn't completely shut down a build so reliant on its shield, then it shouldn't be that much of a problem in the grand scheme of things.

    In addition to this I'm glad this tech was discovered (aside from some nasty things that can be done when combined with some other glitches that I will not discuss). Blocking is ridiculous in this game. It is far, far, FAR too easy to control when you can and can't be hit.
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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Uparkaam on Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:57 am

    As fat rolling isn't a very reliable way to dodge quick weapons I can see weapons like katanas and spears becoming very dangerous for fat rollers with this exploit.

    Also I can imagine TWoP + this being a dangerous combo.


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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:23 am

    Another exploit...

    I'm not even going to bother with PvP soon, this is becoming ridiculous.

    Why can't people just play the game the way it was intended?

    Attacking through shields with strength weapons was bad enough, but now almost every weapon can pull it off.

    Well better start planning my builds without shields now.

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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Serious_Much on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:27 am

    Wilk I haven't even played with a shield in pvp since I found out dead angles aren't even actual dead angles silly


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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by KrazykevS10 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:43 am

    I believe I'd had this used against me a few times before.Still doesn't affect me,I just dashboard when the bullcrap starts anyway.

    If you want to kill a turtle player just backstab them,no need to cheat.


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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by SlintEastwood on Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:06 am

    KrazykevS10 wrote:I believe I'd had this used against me a few times before.Still doesn't affect me,I just dashboard when the bullcrap starts anyway.

    If you want to kill a turtle player just backstab them,no need to cheat.
    This post is hilarious but sad.
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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Sentiel on Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:33 am

    Wilkinson3424 wrote:Another exploit...

    I'm not even going to bother with PvP soon, this is becoming ridiculous.

    Why can't people just play the game the way it was intended?

    Attacking through shields with strength weapons was bad enough, but now almost every weapon can pull it off.

    Well better start planning my builds without shields now.

    RIP DkS pvp
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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing on Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:59 am

    I don't like it and won't use it but I will learn to fight it. This just strikes me wrong to use and I won't even bother being nice if anyone uses it on me. I'll just two-hand kill you.

    Also slint how is what Krazy said both funny and sad?


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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by SATLOS on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:23 pm

    Needing to be unlocked negates a lot of this technique's usefulness with the more annoying weapons (i.e. spears).

    Like others have said, if you're not AFK or a complete turtle pansy, this won't cause more than a tiny ripple in the PvP waters.

    Carry on, nothing to see here folks.
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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Leet on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:57 pm

    This will give you no clear advantage during a match. Period. Come on people.

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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:04 pm

    unless you mid roll and cannot dodge effectively. that does happen. at least with regular dead angles the longer weapons could be turtled, if they're doing that, its not so much the case


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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by SATLOS on Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:12 pm

    TooLeet wrote:This will give you no clear advantage during a match. Period. Come on people.
    Agreed.

    I don't get the outrage I see on this forum when I (rarely) stop in for a look...

    Most people here are seasoned PvPers... If you can deal with dead angle WoGs, this is cake. I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like this would make it EASIER to roll BS punish.
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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Cronotis on Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:54 pm

    SATLOS wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:This will give you no clear advantage during a match. Period. Come on people.
    Agreed.

    I don't get the outrage I see on this forum when I (rarely) stop in for a look...

    Most people here are seasoned PvPers... If you can deal with dead angle WoGs, this is cake. I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like this would make it EASIER to roll BS punish.
    Yeah my thought exactly.  After you see an opponent do this once, I think it would be easy to bait and punish.  You may not even need to eat the first one to realize that you opponent is using this technique, since the pivot causes the attack to be slightly delayed.


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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Leet on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:02 pm

    I encourage people to use this on me. 

    May your spine rest in peace.

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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Shakie666 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:10 pm

    *Sigh...* Because katana's aren't already OP now are they?

    I know in the video he's against a stationary target, but it still doesn't look that hard to do; just flick the left analog stick back and forth at the right moment. With practise, I could imagine someone being able to do this pretty consistently. In the face of being able to completely nuffily blocking, dark magic + TWOP seems pretty reasonable.

    And before anyone says about how easy it is to punish, its the principle that really matters. A glitch that allows the user to ignore one of the game's core mechanics is unacceptable.

    Hopefully, since DkS2 is running on a new engine, silly things such as this won't be a problem anymore.


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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Leet on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:17 pm

    Shakie666 wrote:*Sigh...* Because katana's aren't already OP now are they?
    Katana's are OP? lolwut.

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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Shakie666 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:22 pm

    TooLeet wrote:
    Shakie666 wrote:*Sigh...* Because katana's aren't already OP now are they?
    Katana's are OP? lolwut.
    If the number of people using them is anything to go by, yes.
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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Mental Gear on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:32 pm

    Like said before backhop or roll. No problem really because there's even a little more time for it. Then as he misses, punish. I'm no good at parrying in PvP, but someone who is with a parry shield will punish this even harder.
    Moving on with nice clean fun on PC, just finished 3 hours of almost backstab-free(once) and exploit free random Sl100 invasions in PW, Kiln and Oolacile. Ok, there were 2 turtles. laughing
    Still super rarely that I encounter something fishy.
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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Leet on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:35 pm

    Shakie666 wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:
    Shakie666 wrote:*Sigh...* Because katana's aren't already OP now are they?
    Katana's are OP? lolwut.
    If the number of people using them is anything to go by, yes.
    People use them because they can do decent damage fast. They are a very easy weapon to learn and be good at. Plus, they have the cool factor of being a long sharp blade that tears through flesh.

    A lot of people using them does not mean they are OP. That means every common weapon in PvP is OP. Including spells, miracles, pyro, and hell, even items. At least by your logic. 



    Alas, nothing in the game is OP besides DWGR. Which there is no arguing against that.

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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by SATLOS on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:38 pm

    Shakie666 wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:
    Shakie666 wrote:*Sigh...* Because katana's aren't already OP now are they?
    Katana's are OP? lolwut.
    If the number of people using them is anything to go by, yes.
    Players with katanas are aggressive. Especially with a buff. Sit back then use it to your advantage.

    Or carry a big stick.

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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Shakie666 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:43 pm

    TooLeet wrote:
    Shakie666 wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:
    Shakie666 wrote:*Sigh...* Because katana's aren't already OP now are they?
    Katana's are OP? lolwut.
    If the number of people using them is anything to go by, yes.
    People use them because they can do decent damage fast. They are a very easy weapon to learn and be good at. Plus, they have the cool factor of being a long sharp blade that tears through flesh.

    A lot of people using them does not mean they are OP. That means every common weapon in PvP is OP. Including spells, miracles, pyro, and hell, even items. At least by your logic. 



    Alas, nothing in the game is OP besides DWGR. Which there is no arguing against that.
    Well, I guess that really depends on what you consider OP. But that's an argument for another day.

    I completely agree with you on the DWGR though. Sometimes I wonder if it should only work below 12.5% equip load or something ridiculous, but that solution seems a bit artificial.

    Back on-topic: I feel as if I didn't explain myself very well in the other post, so i'll re-iterate. Regardless of how hard it is to do or easy it is to avoid, something that completely bypasses a core aspect of the game is not something I will ever condone.
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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:35 pm

    Shakie666 wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:
    Shakie666 wrote:*Sigh...* Because katana's aren't already OP now are they?
    Katana's are OP? lolwut.
    If the number of people using them is anything to go by, yes.
    Shirts are OP. Forks are OP. The internet is OP. NERF.  /troll


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    Re: Ghost Strike

    Post by Acarnatia on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:58 pm

    FP, I thinkt that is the first time I have ever laughed at something you wrote-it's uncommon for me to even agree with you. That is funny. You have plundered one of my +1s for today.


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