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    Post by ham_hands Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:24 pm

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    Just started playing a bit again after a long while and I'm bummed to come across this behaviour...

    One of my favorite things to do is grief the griefers in the upper burg. I have a sweet SL1 build(actual build) and I enjoy seeing summoners through this area especially when a griefer shows up. Usually this was very satisfying and rewarding for myself as it suits my nature. Occassionly I would drop humanity, resin, titanite, etc.. to players who were clearly new to the game. 

    Fast forward to last week when I popped in DS, fired up my SL1 build, threw down my sign and presto PM after PM asking for my stuff. Nearly 30% of the time when  I appear the summoner is just standing there typing. I never experienced this in the past except when I would come across the occasional NG+ who might send a trade offer which is totally cool IMO. 

    I'm guessing this is a direct result of BB glitch being fixed as the bulk of my play occurred before that patch. Now that same personality type has no shame in resorting to in-game begging. Please note that I have no problem with anyone utilizing discussion boards to trade or ask for equipment.

    It's against my so-called phantom code but now I just crystal back to my world in response and hope a griefer gets them, sad to say. wave
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    Post by SadPanda Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:13 pm

    ig onc trold dis guy reel hrd he try 2 invade me in the toon of th giunts nd me kild his azz
    was lvl 300 er sumthin lost kount haha
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    Post by SadPanda Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:15 pm

    Seriously though, SL1 is easy enough, jst makm fam

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    Post by DigitaLinsanitY Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:19 pm

    I agree, it's obnoxious. Unfortunatly most online games with loot have their share of beggers.

    It's the entitled ones that are the worst. They just tell you to give them stuff.. almost demand it.

    Drop em a dung pie and move on (or invade them yourself!)
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    Post by StiffNipples Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:25 pm

    The ones that act really entitled and expect you to drop them stuff, just black crystal out and start invading.

    Chances are you'll invade them (especially on PC) due to the way the networking works.




    Then kick them off a cliff devil 
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    Post by Kirk-Barb Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:55 am

     Earlier this week I was in the Upper burg with my SunBro and was summoned to help a host along with a Japanese phantom.  We get the host safely to the boss gate with both the Knight and Havel defeated.  However once we were there, the host proceeded to point down and follow the Japanses phantom around. There was some serious personal space issues.

    We both got the message, but instead of dropping anything, we both began pointing forward towards the boss gate in unison. It was kind of funny, because when I stopped the Japanese phantom would stop, and when I started he would too.  Sort of like synchronized gesturing. All the while, the host was circling around us, waving and pointing down.

    After a couple of minutes, the Japanses phantom, faced me and bowed.  I bowed back.  He then waved and I waved back.  Finally he black crystaled out and I followed suit.

    I again place my sign down to continue co-op and I'm summoned by the same Japanese phantom, who drops me 5 humanities and the with a bow and wave, black crystals me out.  I don't need the humanities, but I still take them and bow my thanks.  I then find his summoning sign and summon him to my world.  I drop him 3 titanite chunks, then with a bow and wave black crystal him home.  He, of course thanked me with a bow as well.

    A very annoying host, but a very cool fellow phantom.  cheers 
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    Post by twigsterxd Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:59 am

    I hate it when people ask for stuff and as soon as you say no or I just started this toon myself, they send me away. So I block them cause it ticks me off big time lol. I block so they can't spam pm me anymore.
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    Post by deadagain Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:47 pm

    My favorite is when they ask for 99 boss souls lol. I usually just spam laugh untill I get booted.
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:57 pm

    I hate that a lot but I love making them regret it. Favorite way: point down bc out and then invade then and kill them. Going to try that with my low sl with max gear so well they get two messages. 1 I could have cleared the area easy for you and don't ask me for stuff.
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    Post by MikailArksot Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:05 pm

    Usually, I just give my host anything I don't need, be it titanite, a weapon, or even just a Humanity.

    There are occasions when I get asked for things. Once, when I was co-oping in Oolacile, someone asked me for the Catalyst that the Mages drop. I told him sure, but then I fell off a cliff and died on accident. Didn't hear back, so I assume he moved on.
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    Post by ResIsBestStat Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:07 pm

    How early coop in Dark Souls usually works:


    Host: Gibe moni nd itms pls
    Phantom: No cuz u shud experience game without hax
    Host: I cristal u *uses black crystal*
    Phantom: omfg y u do dis
    Host: Cuz ur stoopid idiot go die u r supposed to help me


    *phantom then invades host and kills him*


    Host: Omfg dis game is BS imma sell dis 4 call of doody ghoost


    The Host called Billy then proceeded to complain on the internet about Dark Souls and it's bad multiplayer system just because someone wouldn't let him cheese the game.


    Billy is a ****. Don't be like Billy.


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    Post by Aigaios Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:15 pm

    SadPanda wrote: ig onc trold dis guy reel hrd he try 2 invade me in the toon of th giunts nd me kild his azz
    was lvl 300 er sumthin lost kount haha
    Seriously i have no idea what this says.


    I dont really co-op so I don't have this problem. However if someone I PvP with asks me for something i have and dont really need I will usually give it to them.
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    Post by reim0027 Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:27 pm

    I either block them, BS out and try to invade them. No comment, no reply to their asinine rants. Now, if someone is low on a few items, and asks nicely, then I give them some. Seriously, we learn as kids that if you want to get something, you have to ask nicely. I don't like brats. I move on and enjoy the game.
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    Post by xSomax Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:06 am

    i almost never experience this issue.... in all my time in DS, pre and post patch. half the time, the host rushes through more quickly than i can. theres the occassional ****, but they never beg. just do generally.... assholish things. like BS me out without actual reason. not even having the chance to move. though thats rare. 

    i've actually met quite a few people who ask for help, since i'm fairly good at the game(not to the point of a SL 1 run or something, but i can manage a belmont run without lock-on. matter of fact, i'd forgot lock-on existed up until bell gargoyles). sometimes i'll offer advice anyways though. 

    honestly, i don't really see this. out of all the runs i did just 2 days ago for taurus, approximately 5-10, none of them were like that. most of em wanted to do havel though. pretty **** tactics were used, and most of em either died or died after i did, but no one begged for anything. mostly they stayed on the stairs and threw stuff, while i did the heavy slashing. fun fact, zwei does wonders on havel. black knight swords even better. even funnier is that the one guy that actually got down and helped, beat havel lol. anyways, thats besides the point. tactics aside i don't believe i've ever seen someone begging.
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    Post by redwingsoverbaron Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:56 am

    i just invade, so its not usually an issue, but i have the occasional things i ask for if i end up matching with a balanced fair fellow consistently, and even then i just repay them with something usually pretty outrageous. tonight for example, my interwebs were disconnected for a few months, so i finally pop back on and make a nub mistake and forgot to collect my 99 humanity -_______- after i died and lost all of it, so i asked this dude if he had any and he threw me like 15, which was cool, so i dropped him four slabs, if im going to go out of my way to ask someone for something, then im going to repay them nicely. also ended in a beautiful double kill, about as honorable as it could get.
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    Post by Back Lot Basher Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:56 pm

    One thing I don't mind sharing is humanity.  I had a host who was trying to kill O&S and said he was down to his last humanity.  I dropped three for him (I'd been farming them in the Abyss anyway).  I suppose I could have just told him to drop a sign to earn some back, but it's hard to know how busy the game is at any given time.  And after all, it's O&S.
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    Post by barrywilkins Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:36 pm

    I oddly get that a lot as a Black Phantom.  I've decided to use this to my advantage.  Respond with a question, wait for them to start answering, POWER UP THE FIRE TEMPEST.  I feel that gets the message across, and makes me laugh! laughing
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    Post by Lord of Ash Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:50 pm

    Dude that is just dark souls my business is centered around people who dont want to get stuff themselves if invade low sls and they ask for like humanity or a decent weapon I take their starter armor especially if its a wander set thats the best light starter fully upgraded. I ve helped litteraly thousands of people who wanted anywhere from a few items to a mule.BUT I DONT DO FRE..FR...Icant even say that dirty word
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    Post by xSomax Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:08 pm

    when people ask for stuff from you ash, thats a different horse altogether. people go into it expecting to hand over some form of collateral. in that regard, i am totally fine with it. it is your business to help people to make builds that would normally be impossible through in-game means, or to help super level someones characters with all the souls you somehow get. even helping someone get a hard-to-obtain weapon. the difference between this and begging is that this is a trade where each person makes a gain and a loss of some sort, and not some whiny little entitled ***** without an ounce of dignity trying to beg you for all you are worth.
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    Post by Lord of Ash Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:10 pm

    Like I said I dont do that f thang if I come across someone asking for something and I dont know tem itell we gotta trade and I git my **** upfront
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:21 am

    What I get asked for is the hacked armour and weapons. Apart from feeling extremely disgusted,I either leave or kill them in a harsh way and give them a bad player review. I feel annoyed just thinking about those people to be honest.
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    Post by Tolvo Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:41 am

    I would love to invade people in elite cleric armor and when they ask for hacked armor drop them cleric armor then kill them as soon as they pick it up.
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:48 pm

    Lord of Ash wrote:Dude that is just dark souls my business is centered around people who dont want to get stuff themselves if invade low sls and they ask for like humanity or a decent weapon I take their starter armor especially if its a wander set thats the best light starter fully upgraded. I ve helped litteraly thousands of people who wanted anywhere from a few items to a mule.BUT I DONT DO FRE..FR...Icant even say that dirty word
    Can you give me a free soul of an lost undead? Pretty please? It's just 200 souls. 


    So in all seriousness. You've never given any items away before?
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    Post by SirArchmage Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:06 pm

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:
    Lord of Ash wrote:Dude that is just dark souls my business is centered around people who dont want to get stuff themselves if invade low sls and they ask for like humanity or a decent weapon I take their starter armor especially if its a wander set thats the best light starter fully upgraded. I ve helped litteraly thousands of people who wanted anywhere from a few items to a mule.BUT I DONT DO FRE..FR...Icant even say that dirty word
    Can you give me a free soul of an lost undead? Pretty please? It's just 200 souls. 


    So in all seriousness. You've never given any items away before?
    This is Ash we're talking about. He doesn't do free. He somehow finds use even for broken straight swords.
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    Post by Green__Eagle Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:06 pm

    Funny you mention that; I recently farmed for the Broken Straight Sword.. not fun.

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