Hipster Souls

    Share
    avatar
    SadPanda
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 900
    Reputation : 11
    Join date : 2013-04-20

    Hipster Souls

    Post by SadPanda on Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:39 pm

    What's up with people doing anything in their power to not be a part of the meta? I mean, why use inconventional weapons and such just so they're not like anyone else.

    Just a few months ago, it seemed everyone was using a dex/pyro with a chaos blade or great scythe. And even post-patch everyone was flipping around with 76 poise and a claymore and a katana.

    But now it seems, if you're not dual-wielding with no poise, especially without reverse roll backstabbing every attack, or not doing some sort of fancy stun combo or parry ring switches, "ur a tryhrd scrub".

    Why can't PvP just be fighting someone, not with all these tricks. It's kind of like how I feel about Super Smash Bros. Melee. All the multiplayer is now is wavedashing wombo-combos with top tier characters.

    And I'm really good at both of these games, not trying to brag, but whenever I do multiplayer on either of these games, and people are using every conceivable trick in the book to get an advantage, it annoys me.

    And most of the time, these people only do the tricks and such because they see Youtube uploaders or Twitch streamers doing it. So they don't even do it well, and it's usually a quick end on them.

    Bottom line, I'd rather fight someone doing a meta tactic well, than a "hipster" doing it badly, and just because they saw everyone else doing it.


    _________________
    Well What is it mastr of downboats Well What is it
    edjier dan a knife
    Xbox GT: Gapestation

    Marino.
    Compulsory Poster
    Compulsory Poster

    Posts : 3306
    Reputation : 46
    Join date : 2012-09-15
    Age : 24

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Marino. on Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:44 pm

    I'm pretty sure most do it because they're bored of the typical builds, not because they want to be different .
    Some may do, but that's not a reason to riff on everyone that uses "Hipster" builds

    I use Dual Bonewheelshields while midroling with 80 or so Poise and it's the most fun i've had recently .

    Other than that, i agree .
    avatar
    WhatDoesThePendantDo?
    Duke's Archivist
    Duke's Archivist

    Posts : 11501
    Reputation : 327
    Join date : 2012-04-18
    Age : 28
    Location : WPB, Florida

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:45 pm

    Form a 1337 FC. Clearly, that is the solution.

    avatar
    SadPanda
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 900
    Reputation : 11
    Join date : 2013-04-20

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by SadPanda on Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:52 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Form a 1337 FC. Clearly, that is the solution.
    I already did. But it's more of a fun fight club than a serious one.


    _________________
    Well What is it mastr of downboats Well What is it
    edjier dan a knife
    Xbox GT: Gapestation
    avatar
    Sentiel
    Compulsory Poster
    Compulsory Poster

    Posts : 3181
    Reputation : 231
    Join date : 2012-11-26
    Age : 30
    Location : Mushroom Kingdom

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Sentiel on Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:09 pm

    It's boring to use the same weapon for hundreds of hours. Just now, I got a splendid idea to give my Str build a Mace. It sucks, we all know that, so getting a win with it is hard, but it's more entertaining for me than using a Large Club. 
    Just an example.
    Also, people used to fighting all the top tier weapons often have no idea how to fight the lesse tier weapons and get killed quite easily.

    avatar
    skarekrow13
    Chat Moderator

    Posts : 10236
    Reputation : 410
    Join date : 2012-01-27
    Location : Ralph Wilson Stadium

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by skarekrow13 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:54 pm

    Sentiel's point is very true. You wouldn't believe the number of people I destroyed with the Priscilla's dagger and Gargoyle Tail Ax because they had no idea what it looked like in action.

    avatar
    KrazykevS10
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1566
    Reputation : 36
    Join date : 2013-01-28
    Age : 24
    Location : Ireland

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by KrazykevS10 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:29 pm

    SadPanda wrote:
    But now it seems, if you're not dual-wielding with no poise, especially without reverse roll backstabbing every attack, or not doing some sort of fancy stun combo or parry ring switches, "ur a tryhrd scrub".
    Actually,doing the above would in fact make you a tryhard. Being one isn't limited to trying to win in the most unimaginative,effective way possible. Trying really hard to look cool and be better than everyone else is the exact same thing. Most uploaders and duelists are tryhards,that's just how it is.


    _________________
    avatar
    Tolvo
    Town Crier
    Town Crier

    Posts : 13287
    Reputation : 542
    Join date : 2012-02-01
    Age : 25
    Location : The Forest, Illinois

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Tolvo on Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:24 pm

    Some people also like a challenge, they also like to represent ideas, cosplay, mess around, or look cool with a certain outfit.  People play how they play.  Some people also don't like to just follow the mold and reject standard meta.  I always go against the meta personally and generally I creat builds that take advantage of standard meta builds.

    Why do I wear leather armor with a Pharis hat in the woods?  Because it's fun, it's a challenge, and it takes a real man to wear a pair of tights.
    avatar
    Carphil
    Chat Moderator

    Posts : 4921
    Reputation : 90
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 21
    Location : Brazil

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Carphil on Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:59 pm

    Loved the avatar Tolvo


    Its not just that is boring, everyone has a different personality and try to reflect it in clothes, weapons and styles. It kinda sucks to find out a new cool weapon and realise everyone is using it, the fun of this game its equipment variety so why should we play only with 3 or 4 weapons?


    _________________
    It may take a day or ten thousand years, but I will find her. This is a promise.

    I'm not the chosen one, I'm the one who chose to be more.

    Carphil_BR on PSN :bas:
    avatar
    EeAyEss
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1622
    Reputation : 47
    Join date : 2012-05-14
    Age : 21
    Location : In front of my Calculus textbook.

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by EeAyEss on Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:02 pm

    I think the OP is angry at or talking about the people that call out others for using the tried-and-true PvP builds and isn't talking about being creative in and of itself. I could be wrong.


    _________________
    avatar
    SadPanda
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 900
    Reputation : 11
    Join date : 2013-04-20

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by SadPanda on Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:08 pm

    No, I hate when people do as mentioned above because popular Dark Souls players do. Hence "hipster".


    _________________
    Well What is it mastr of downboats Well What is it
    edjier dan a knife
    Xbox GT: Gapestation
    avatar
    EeAyEss
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1622
    Reputation : 47
    Join date : 2012-05-14
    Age : 21
    Location : In front of my Calculus textbook.

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by EeAyEss on Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:12 pm

    Ok makes sense.b tongue


    _________________
    avatar
    Reaperfan
    Compulsory Poster
    Compulsory Poster

    Posts : 3008
    Reputation : 135
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 26
    Location : Canterlot

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Reaperfan on Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:33 pm

    I would think it's for variety. You may know the best strategies and have the skill to play well, but after a while of only experiencing what's in the meta it grows stale and you want to see/use new things so you won't get bored. Maybe it's optimistic of me to say so, but I don't actually think alot of people do it just to say they aren't "metasheep."

    It's like being at a Melee tournament back in the day. There'd only ever be a few players who used anything besides Fox/Falco/Marth, but those odd-character players' matches were always the most interesting.


    _________________

    "To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~C.S. Lewis
    avatar
    twigsterxd
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 985
    Reputation : 31
    Join date : 2013-04-22

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by twigsterxd on Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:37 pm

    Not everyone uses the same type of builds. If they did the game would be boring
    avatar
    Serious_Much
    Moderator Trainee
    Moderator Trainee

    Posts : 14641
    Reputation : 287
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 25
    Location : The Dark Side of the Moon

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:40 pm

    I don't see the harm of guys trying to do these little tricks badly. The youtubers who do it well were at one time like the guys attempting and failing it because they hadn't practiced it enough.

    Also I like build variety, so please, hipsters line up for me and let me see your interesting builds. More fun than guys constantly just fishing for BS and poise tanking R1 spam like a lot of players.


    _________________
    PSN and other stuff:
    PSN: HolyPK9 "You are free to sever the chains of fate that bind you"

    Sage Andarta, Founder of the Crystal Seekers; The Noble Knights

    Principal GremSay of the Karmatic Gremlin Gang

    Moderator of the Wiki Chatroom- Come join the fun  cheers

    PRAISE. THE. SUN. lol!
    avatar
    Mintgroove

    Posts : 11
    Reputation : -6
    Join date : 2013-08-24

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Mintgroove on Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:24 pm

    SadPanda wrote:What's up with people doing anything in their power to not be a part of the meta? I mean, why use inconventional weapons and such just so they're not like anyone else.

    Just a few months ago, it seemed everyone was using a dex/pyro with a chaos blade or great scythe. And even post-patch everyone was flipping around with 76 poise and a claymore and a katana.

    But now it seems, if you're not dual-wielding with no poise, especially without reverse roll backstabbing every attack, or not doing some sort of fancy stun combo or parry ring switches, "ur a tryhrd scrub".

    Why can't PvP just be fighting someone, not with all these tricks. It's kind of like how I feel about Super Smash Bros. Melee. All the multiplayer is now is wavedashing wombo-combos with top tier characters.

    And I'm really good at both of these games, not trying to brag, but whenever I do multiplayer on either of these games, and people are using every conceivable trick in the book to get an advantage, it annoys me.

    And most of the time, these people only do the tricks and such because they see Youtube uploaders or Twitch streamers doing it. So they don't even do it well, and it's usually a quick end on them.

    Bottom line, I'd rather fight someone doing a meta tactic well, than a "hipster" doing it badly, and just because they saw everyone else doing it.
    Wavedashing is practically useless except for spacing. Oh no, he's moving around marginally faster and can slightly change his trajectory beyond your range when he does an fsmash. Surrendering so easily = you're probably French. Just play Brawl, no wavedashing there, not that it was immensely of use to anyone.

    I hate complaints like this. Pointless. I can tell you're from /v/. You galoshes will argue about anything.

    The only thing that sucks in Dark Souls besides the fact that the game itself is balanced like buttocks and harbours abysmal netcode is that there's hacking. If you're not hacking I don't give a crap.

    I'm not sure what you're complaining about. You seem plundered anally both over unique builds and ones that are made solely to be effective, so you're either some form of hypocrite or cannot communicate properly.
    avatar
    SadPanda
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 900
    Reputation : 11
    Join date : 2013-04-20

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by SadPanda on Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:51 pm

    le buttatomized by opinions face xD

    Seriously though, thanks for that part about /v/, because they have bad taste and all (u git trold hard by me xD). That'd be like saying that if you're from Australia, you have bad taste.

    Thanks for the downboat by the way, it seems like I'm getting a strong cult following of people that pride themselves that thinking a little red bar makes a difference on my opinion or not.

    n wuy u say bout brahl m8 ima top teer playa n could nok ur gabba fastr dan u could say "blimey!".


    _________________
    Well What is it mastr of downboats Well What is it
    edjier dan a knife
    Xbox GT: Gapestation
    avatar
    Soul of Stray Demon
    Revived
    Revived

    Posts : 2424
    Reputation : 39
    Join date : 2013-06-11
    Age : 21
    Location : Sitting next to Encore... "watching television"

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Soul of Stray Demon on Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:01 pm

    Some people have fun being in the meta. Some people don't. They play how they want.

    avatar
    Tolvo
    Town Crier
    Town Crier

    Posts : 13287
    Reputation : 542
    Join date : 2012-02-01
    Age : 25
    Location : The Forest, Illinois

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Tolvo on Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:02 pm

    Mint please do not use such insulting words while slandering groups of people.  There are forum guidelines, you should get acquainted with them.  They can be accessed from every section and are even in my signature.
    avatar
    SadPanda
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 900
    Reputation : 11
    Join date : 2013-04-20

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by SadPanda on Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:07 pm

    Mintgroove wrote:You seem plundered anally both over unique builds and ones that are made solely to be effective, so you're either some form of hypocrite or cannot communicate properly.
    Also,
    lrn2reed m8

    EeAyEss wrote:I think the OP is angry at or talking about the people that call out others for using the tried-and-true PvP builds and isn't talking about being creative in and of itself. I could be wrong.


    SadPanda wrote:No, I hate when people do as mentioned above because popular Dark Souls players do. Hence "hipster".


    Last edited by SadPanda on Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:09 pm; edited 1 time in total


    _________________
    Well What is it mastr of downboats Well What is it
    edjier dan a knife
    Xbox GT: Gapestation
    avatar
    Serious_Much
    Moderator Trainee
    Moderator Trainee

    Posts : 14641
    Reputation : 287
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 25
    Location : The Dark Side of the Moon

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:08 pm

    Mintgroove wrote:
    Wavedashing is practically useless except for spacing. Oh no, he's moving around marginally faster and can slightly change his trajectory beyond your range when he does an fsmash. Surrendering so easily = you're probably French. Just play Brawl, no wavedashing there, not that it was immensely of use to anyone.

    I hate complaints like this. Pointless. I can tell you're from /v/. You galoshes will argue about anything.

    The only thing that sucks in Dark Souls besides the fact that the game itself is balanced like buttocks and harbours abysmal netcode is that there's hacking. If you're not hacking I don't give a crap.

    I'm not sure what you're complaining about. You seem plundered anally both over unique builds and ones that are made solely to be effective, so you're either some form of hypocrite or cannot communicate properly.
    This post is completely unacceptable and breaks the first rule of the forum on more than one occasion (flaming, abusive or insulting language). Please do not take this kind of tone against another forum member again.

    As you seem to be new, I'd suggest you familiarise yourself with the forum guidelines, which you can find here:

    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t2-forum-guidelines

    Hopefully looking at these guidelines can help you make more appropriate posts in the future.


    _________________
    PSN and other stuff:
    PSN: HolyPK9 "You are free to sever the chains of fate that bind you"

    Sage Andarta, Founder of the Crystal Seekers; The Noble Knights

    Principal GremSay of the Karmatic Gremlin Gang

    Moderator of the Wiki Chatroom- Come join the fun  cheers

    PRAISE. THE. SUN. lol!
    avatar
    SirArchmage
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1146
    Reputation : 85
    Join date : 2013-04-24
    Age : 21
    Location : 537 Paper Street Soap Company

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by SirArchmage on Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:11 pm

    The Iron Tarkus cares little for these "hipster" tactics you speak of.

    But in all seriousness, I understand where you are coming from. I hate fighting five people all with the same build in one night, then go do some research just to find that some youtuber just posted a video using the exact build I've just been fighting over and over again.

    While I don't care what tactics you use(as annoying........ever so annoying they may be. I am looking at you, reverse-rolling ninja flippers) I do care when I fight the same thing over and over again, seeing people try to use tactics that are just not working for them because they do not fully understand how to use them.

    Just a few weeks ago, it seemed that everyone on xbox decided it was a great time to start parry spamming all at once. For two weeks straight I met some of the same builds over and over again every day. Target shield, rapier, hornet ring either thief mask or big hat while spamming that parry button over and over again. And everyday that I decide to spend at least an hour hosting in the forest, I can expect to see a guy using the same build as "OroboroNinja".

    Sure, I love variety and people using unexpected tactics and builds, but most seem to simply be copied and pasted from a youtube video.


    _________________
    :sign: I don't kill you in the most effective of ways. I kill you in the funniest. :sign:
    "Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know."
    -Ernest Hemmingway

    The Heretic was here twisted Mwa haha
    avatar
    Tolvo
    Town Crier
    Town Crier

    Posts : 13287
    Reputation : 542
    Join date : 2012-02-01
    Age : 25
    Location : The Forest, Illinois

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Tolvo on Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:15 pm

    Although I will say don't be afraid to use the word Galoshes, it's a hilarious insult that most people probably won't find offensive because of purely how the word sounds.

    EDIT:  It is on the level of calling someone a trout faced haberdasher with the collective consciousness of a half plowed field.
    avatar
    Serious_Much
    Moderator Trainee
    Moderator Trainee

    Posts : 14641
    Reputation : 287
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 25
    Location : The Dark Side of the Moon

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:22 pm

    Tolvo wrote:Although I will say don't be afraid to use the word Galoshes, it's a hilarious insult that most people probably won't find offensive because of purely how the word sounds.

    EDIT:  It is on the level of calling someone a trout faced haberdasher with the collective consciousness of a half plowed field.
    You forget that we british are still stuck in the 1800s and frequently use silly sounding mockery of one another in playful jest.

    Tis' a shame few chaps on here would be as sporting as you and both comprehend and accept our dastardly ways


    _________________
    PSN and other stuff:
    PSN: HolyPK9 "You are free to sever the chains of fate that bind you"

    Sage Andarta, Founder of the Crystal Seekers; The Noble Knights

    Principal GremSay of the Karmatic Gremlin Gang

    Moderator of the Wiki Chatroom- Come join the fun  cheers

    PRAISE. THE. SUN. lol!
    avatar
    theGentleman
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 106
    Reputation : 10
    Join date : 2012-01-19

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by theGentleman on Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:56 pm

    I was not part of the meta way before it was cool cool

    Sponsored content

    Re: Hipster Souls

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:09 am