Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

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    Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:41 pm

    So, I've kept saying the Estoc beats the BK on BS and Riposte. I did the testing last night. Against regular armor, and hard armor. BK beat the Estoc every time.

    So, I was wrong on that. Sorry.

    But, the Rapier beat everything, sometimes by a good amount.


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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by RANT on Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:46 pm

    all this time you've been lying to us you bastard! lol good to know.


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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by Pargar-theGreat on Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:20 am

    thanks reim for checking that. you rock


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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by The Once-Ler on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:11 pm

    I would love to see the critical on pricilla's dagger on a true dex toon. Also, what is the ctitical on the mailbreaker? Just wondering on that one.


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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by barecanvas on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:20 pm

    The Once-Ler wrote:I would love to see the critical on pricilla's dagger on a true dex toon. Also, what is the ctitical on the mailbreaker? Just wondering on that one.
    on 45 dex, pracillas riposted and bs is pretty ndard, even with hornets ring
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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:57 pm

    Critical on the Mailbreaker was lower than the Estoc. I don't have numbers; I didn't write them down. I do know the Rapier beat the Mailbreaker by about 200 (on a BS) - it'll probably be more on a riposte.


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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by JoocyJ003 on Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:25 pm

    Good Work. Just wondering were these elementals or standards?
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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:25 pm

    Lightning elementals. I did it for a quick experiment. If I have a partner, we can test all elementals and +15 versions of each weapon, and testing several common armor pieces.


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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by JY4answer on Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:51 pm

    I did a post on all these a while back. B knife, rapier, mail breaker, Estoc. (sniff)

    Slightly related, the B knife is much better if you wanna go stealthy. The rapiers poking thru walls are just anoyying.
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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:29 pm

    JY4answer wrote:I did a post on all these a while back. B knife, rapier, mail breaker, Estoc. (sniff)

    Slightly related, the B knife is much better if you wanna go stealthy. The rapiers poking thru walls are just anoyying.
    Sorry man, didn't know that. I've only been here for a month or so. I must've missed your thread.


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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:30 pm

    I happen to have Chaos Vairants at +4 of all mentioned weapons except the Bandits Knife, which I could have in a little bit.
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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by JY4answer on Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:32 am

    Note that I did my tests with +14s on all 4, with 40 dex, testing on black knights at the Kiln. Might vary with human opponents, especially the thrusting/slashing damage variable. B knife will do better against light armor.

    Basically I got Rapier > Estoc > Mail Breaker > B knife
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    Re: Bandit's Knife Beats Estoc's Critical

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:11 pm

    Let's compare that to PvP builds. Elemental damage is different on criticals. Also, bring buffs, magic, SL, and resin.


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